Politics, politics, politics (so long and thanks for all the fish)

[Danishfurniturelover]

No, absolutely not.

Taxes and spending have to be cut significantly but nobody wants to admit it.

I actually agree with this.

Interesting that our economy is improving faster then the EU. Weird because I thought we were a basket case. I guess once Labour get in(rightly so) in a few months time, hopefully some of the near constant negativity will go once they get in.

 

[Mikey10]

I actually agree with this.

Interesting that our economy is improving faster then the EU. Weird because I thought we were a basket case. I guess once Labour get in(rightly so) in a few months time, hopefully some of the near constant negativity will go once they get in.

Our economy is forecast to have the weakest growth in the G7 for the foreseeable future.

UK economy set to be worst performing in G7 - how it compares with the rest

OECD downgrades British growth forecast from 0.7% to 0.4% per cent this year, with 1% predicted next year

inews.co.uk

 

[Danishfurniturelover]

Our economy is forecast to have the weakest growth in the G7 for the foreseeable future.

UK economy set to be worst performing in G7 - how it compares with the rest

OECD downgrades British growth forecast from 0.7% to 0.4% per cent this year, with 1% predicted next year

inews.co.uk

Funny how different sources come up with different scenarios.

I even recently read a report citing the IMF saying that over the last 5 years Britain has out performed the EU economies.

 

[ricky2tricky4city]

Funny how different sources come up with different scenarios.

I even recently read a report citing the IMF saying that over the last 5 years Britain has out performed the EU economies.

Depends on what metric?

tinkling money up the wall?

 

[Gutter Boy]

Funny how different sources come up with different scenarios.

I even recently read a report citing the IMF saying that over the last 5 years Britain has out performed the EU economies.

G7 and EU are quite different though - only 3 of the countries are in both (France, Germany and Italy).

 

[Danishfurniturelover]

Depends on what metric?

tinkling money up the wall?

Hey I think this government are a shower of brick. Said that many times.

Want them gone like everyone does. Bit playing devils advocate here, perhaps the country is not as fcuked as everyone always makes out.

 

[Mikey10]

Funny how different sources come up with different scenarios.

I even recently read a report citing the IMF saying that over the last 5 years Britain has out performed the EU economies.

Our economy had just about the biggest crash during covid of the European nations, given that (thanks to another Tory from 40 years ago) we are very largely a service based nation. We therefore had just about the furthest to climb back in relative terms, and from one of the very lowest economic points.

 

[spurspinter1]

Hey I think this government are a shower of brick. Said that many times.

Want them gone like everyone does. Bit playing devils advocate here, perhaps the country is not as fcuked as everyone always makes out.

Provide some information / context that backs up what you said as Mikey has requested - Just stating something that goes against the grain doesn't make it true if you can't provide substance and he didn't ask whether you like the current lot.

I'm not really sure how you can accurately measure one countries growth versus a large group like the EU, which is why it was an interesting claim to me.

Growth and those who rail against "anti growth" phalanx just seems to be a weapon against wellbeing / happiness / humanity in favour of spreadsheets to me. "If you aren't contributing to the GDP you're dragging the country down" seems to be the vibe, makes sense with Sunak attacking disabled / unemployed / vulnerable folk.

 

[Diamond Lights]

"Country isn't as bad as it seems". Apart from education, housing, NHS, core services like water now making people sick, yeh it's all fine and dandy.

Speaking of which, why aren't Labour pushing to nationalise water? Seems such an obvious open goal. Especially with the latest outbreak below.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-69026151

 

[Gilzeantoscore]

"Country isn't as bad as it seems". Apart from education, housing, NHS, core services like water now making people sick, yeh it's all fine and dandy.

Speaking of which, why aren't Labour pushing to nationalise water? Seems such an obvious open goal. Especially with the latest outbreak below.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-69026151

For fudge's sake,they are meant to be a socialist party. Transport, water, gas and electricity should all be taken back under public control.

 

[Gutter Boy]

"Country isn't as bad as it seems". Apart from education, housing, NHS, core services like water now making people sick, yeh it's all fine and dandy.

Speaking of which, why aren't Labour pushing to nationalise water? Seems such an obvious open goal. Especially with the latest outbreak below.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-69026151

And Royal Mail. Another failed privisation

 

[Gutter Boy]

I was also in a meeting this week where care home owners were explaining how much debt they were having to take on to service dividends. Its just parasitic

 

[Diamond Lights]

I was also in a meeting this week where care home owners were explaining how much debt they were having to take on to service dividends. Its just parasitic

i know a few people who own care homes and nurseries. Drives a Lamborghini Urus.

 

[thfcsteff]

For fudge's sake,they are meant to be a socialist party. Transport, water, gas and electricity should all be taken back under public control.

Indeed, and a proper supply of affordable housing too.

 

[Gutter Boy]

Indeed, and a proper supply of affordable housing too.

That's easy to achieve - just tax private landlords out of the market

 

[Mikey10]

I was also in a meeting this week where care home owners were explaining how much debt they were having to take on to service dividends. Its just parasitic

We’re still reaping the ‘rewards’ of Thatcherism, unfortunately. Privatise everything, and let those who already have the most profit even more.

How can a child in care cost £281,000 a year? Ask the wealth funds that have councils over a barrel | George Monbiot

Children crying out for stability are paying the highest price for Britain’s chaotic and exploitative residential care, says the Guardian columnist George Monbiot

www.theguardian.com

 

[ricky2tricky4city]

We’re still reaping the ‘rewards’ of Thatcherism, unfortunately. Privatise everything, and let those who already have the most profit even more.

How can a child in care cost £281,000 a year? Ask the wealth funds that have councils over a barrel | George Monbiot

Children crying out for stability are paying the highest price for Britain’s chaotic and exploitative residential care, says the Guardian columnist George Monbiot

www.theguardian.com

FFS.

 

[thfcsteff]

That's easy to achieve - just tax private landlords out of the market

I think we both know that sadly, any number of the methods available to achieve this go 'against the grain of modern societal concern'...wish upon a wish I was wrong.

 

[P.D.]

Our economy is forecast to have the weakest growth in the G7 for the foreseeable future.

UK economy set to be worst performing in G7 - how it compares with the rest

OECD downgrades British growth forecast from 0.7% to 0.4% per cent this year, with 1% predicted next year

inews.co.uk

It's hard to take much notice of these organisations who constantly change their forecasts. Plus they're still using GDP to measure growth, about time we moved away from it.

 

[Mikey10]

It's hard to take much notice of these organisations who constantly change their forecasts. Plus they're still using GDP to measure growth, about time we moved away from it.

The one constant is that the U.K. economy is at the bottom of their forecasts - it’s just by how much.