Daisuk
Chris Jones
It was far from good, but in comparison to the brick we've been served up this season, it was decent.
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***Official Match Thread Tottenham Hotspur v Saudi Sportswashing Machine 8:15pm Tuesday 2nd Dec. ***
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It was far from good, but in comparison to the brick we've been served up this season, it was decent.
Bullet
Paul Stewart
THIS.
At times one of our players would somehow snaffle and scrape the ball into their own possession, then look amazed and give it to a Spur 3 yards away, who would shudder and give it straight back to them, they really didn't have a clue how to progress the ball or how to show any of their GHod-given talent.
It was a very worrying first 30, followed by a slightly better performance.
As usual I felt Frank's subs were 10 minutes too late, loads of our players were walking around, unable to sprint back, thus Guimaraes is free with 10 yards of space to pick his spot from zone 14 yet again.
And I was surprised he did not bring on Spence when Gordon came on, as Porro was exhausted and got roasted for their goal.
Put it like this; if you had 2 great 5,000 metres runners in a relay to run the 10,000 metres at the Olympics, would you tell one of them to run 9,200 metres and get the other guy to sprint the last 2 laps? NO!! You would share out the minutes to get 2 good times over 5,000m.
Grays_1890
Erik Thorstvedt
Given the sheer stupidity of people looking to hammer him for every word you really can't blame the bloke.
Rorschach
Fanny Walden
I am just watching the Fulham/City game highlights and the speed and accuracy of the passing from City is on another level to ours. A good variety of goals too. We just seem to lump a cross or long throw in and that's it. No variety in attack.
There were some great goals from both teams in that game.
Grays_1890
Erik Thorstvedt
I need to catch those highlights, I'm watching Falling Down with Michael Douglas because its actually more uplifting than the Thomas Frank thread
thfcsteff
Teddy Sheringham
When he breaks more often than not there is no quick option. In fact, one break saw him tearing away and actually being told to hold it up and play it back. I do think he is looking a little tired? One more assist tonight though...
glasgowspur
Barry Daines
In fairness the subs were ready for ages but the ball didn't go out of play, which with the level of our passing it is actually progress of a sort.
Bedfordspurs
Paul Gascoigne
But imagine him playing with a 10 alongside him wanting that pass …
thfcsteff
Teddy Sheringham
Why none of them see that as the move begins, Bentacur gets ahead of Burn and is trying to look towards the ball before Burn headlocks him under his armpit which of course is why Bentancur is then NOT looking at the ball. Given is right too; I've seen us 'defended' by defenders not looking at the ball and wrestling. It was a joke decision.
Gazza Dazzla
Rafael Van Der Vaart
BBC’s comment on the penalty:
“Spurs were unhappy that the penalty had been awarded in the first place but, after being ordered by the video assistant referee (VAR) to take a second look on the pitchside monitor, referee Tom Bramall ruled that Rodrigo Bentancur had fouled Dan Burn, dragging the towering defender to the floor.“
How on earth has the writer come to that conclusion?
“Spurs were unhappy that the penalty had been awarded in the first place but, after being ordered by the video assistant referee (VAR) to take a second look on the pitchside monitor, referee Tom Bramall ruled that Rodrigo Bentancur had fouled Dan Burn, dragging the towering defender to the floor.“
How on earth has the writer come to that conclusion?
thfcsteff
Teddy Sheringham
We are set up not to concede first and foremost and then to create chances on counters and using crosses into the box where we hope we can convert due to numbers. Tonight was a classic example of that (both brilliant finishes). I think if we had gameplans which actually used pass and movement/attacking triangles, etc through the middle as well as going wide sometimes, players like Bergvall would develop their passing side more, and Xavi would have field days. I think we have players with better vision, we're just not setting up that way. Here's hoping it arrives in the nearer future.
A good point in the circumstances for sure.
thfcsteff
Teddy Sheringham
I hope we make a highlight reel this season of how many times we've been grappled to the floor by a defender who actually starts by looking in the opposite direction to where the corner is coming from.
tommysvr
Paul Stalteri
Perhaps it's just the emotion of going down to a ridiculous penalty, only for your centre back and captain to salvage a point in the 95th minute with a bicycle kick off the shin.....but I actually thought that was a very solid, very competitive performance. About what you'd hope for away from home on a midweek night under normal circumstances. Still loads of issues going forward -- that our 2 goals came from a CB says a lot -- but I loved the desire and fight from the players.
thfcsteff
Teddy Sheringham
Your headbone's connected to your neckbone, your neckbone's connected to your, etc, etc...it is a system issue which is isolating the front men. We are simply not looking for them enough/not creating enough for them in an open play at the pace necessary to create from open play in the Prem.
Not just our corners, how about the dozens of times it’s happened to every team where they’ve been ‘fouled’ by a defender at a corner but nothing given. Why tonight is it suddenly a penalty?
SpurMeUp
Tommy Harmer
Yet our CBs show more drive hunger and finishing ability. I don’t believe it is a systems issue.
Not really surprising given we have Kudus as the only settled attacking player (and he’s only been here 5 minutes). Who else is settled in attack for us?
Bullet
Paul Stewart
Disagree.
Spurs players were exhausted and visibly not running.
Thomas Frank enjoyed it and thought it would be great to squeeze another 10 minutes of painful walking out of them.
Newcash got their subs ready, whilst Thomas Frank crouched and pondered and discussed.
Newcash put their players on the pitch.
Newcash scored.
Thomas Frank asked his team what to do, and noted down "Gordon is on. Gordon is fast. Gordon is up against Porro" in his notepad.
Richie rubbed some water on his head.
Xavi took off his coat and wondered whether he had forgotten his PE kit and would have to play in his pants.
Newcash had a corner.
Etcetera.
thfcsteff
Teddy Sheringham
I agree on this, even as someone who has been critical. It is absurd how many pressers these chaps have to do, and I think he is doing a very very good job of handling them overall (regardless of how I feel about what is sometimes saying). There needs to be a rule change which allows assts to take some of them...
thfcsteff
Teddy Sheringham
OK. I think it is. We disagree.
Richarlison has played most minutes this season, ditto Kudus. The left has been a little less fixed. Two out of three. Yet our main way of getting the ball to them is to ply long balls requiring them to win Ariel duals or second balls, or to horseshoe it wide and look for crosses. It isn't even a criticism necessarily, it's a clear factual observation. We do not look to play the ball to feet too often in the last third of the pitch, and we certainly don't ever look to make a slide rule pass in behind for a runner simply because the fear is that losing the ball in such an area can be dangerous. Which it can. But it then becomes the whole 'risk/reward' thing...anyway...