• Dear Guest, Please note that adult content is not permitted on this forum. We have had our Google ads disabled at times due to some posts that were found from some time ago. Please do not post adult content and if you see any already on the forum, please report the post so that we can deal with it. Adult content is allowed in the glory hole - you will have to request permission to access it. Thanks, scara

*** Official Film Thread ***

Lilbaz said:
Where did I say he met her?

You obviously don't want to understand what I'm saying. So good day sir.
Click to expand...

But blind people don't know light from dark, black from white, blonde from brown, or blue from green. They are visual constructs. What he pictured as beauty would have related to touch, maybe smell and taste. So his vision of Helen would have been like none other's
 
Gutter Boy said:
But blind people don't know light from dark, black from white, blonde from brown, or blue from green. They are visual constructs. What he pictured as beauty would have related to touch, maybe smell and taste. So his vision of Helen would have been like none other's
Click to expand...

Wtf has him being blind got to do with anything? He wrote a story that described Helen as being blond and fair skinned. That is what everyone in the last 2000 years has read and pictured her as.
 
Lilbaz said:
Wtf has him being blind got to do with anything? He wrote a story that described Helen as being blond and fair skinned. That is what everyone in the last 2000 years has read and pictured her as.
Click to expand...

But he had no conception of what those things meant.

Also - 'xanthe' doesn't particularly translate as blonde. It can also mean brown or red

And he called her 'white armed', which simply meant she was nobility, rather than someone who worked outdoors in the fields
 
Gutter Boy said:
But he had no conception of what those things meant.

Also - 'xanthe' doesn't particularly translate as blonde. It can also mean brown or red

And he called her 'white armed', which simply meant she was nobility, rather than someone who worked outdoors in the fields
Click to expand...

Xanthe means yellow or golden. Working in the fields gave you a tan (because you are in the sun all day). Nobility were fair skinned because they didn't.
I understand you have your own reality and in that one maybe Helen as being black. This one though he didn't.
I really don't care if in the movie she is black. That is Nolans choice in casting. No idea if it makes the film better or worse.
 
Lilbaz said:
Xanthe means yellow or golden. Working in the fields gave you a tan (because you are in the sun all day). Nobility were fair skinned because they didn't.
I understand you have your own reality and in that one maybe Helen as being black. This one though he didn't.
I really don't care if in the movie she is black. That is Nolans choice in casting. No idea if it makes the film better or worse.
Click to expand...

I'm mainly saying that our concepts of race didn't exist before the fifteenth/sixteenth century, so it's a bit anachronistic to apply then back
 
Lilbaz said:
It's a story based on a book. Same as Jack Reacher was based on novels.

People often like the characters and story in the adaptation to resemble the original. It was a classic.
Click to expand...

Mate with all due respect she is playing a role in a total fantasy piece of writing. Its hardly taking artist license on playing Lady Diana

At the end of the day, unlike reality, fiction is there to be tampered with, it happens everywhere in nearly every film, actually it happens alot with non fiction films where they change and manipulate timelines to suit the film, even making up stuff that never happened in real life. Seem that people only really get jumpy when it comes down to race, which again, given its total fiction in the first place looks massively pathetic
 
MartyFunkhouser said:
Mate with all due respect she is playing a role in a total fantasy piece of writing. Its hardly taking artist license on playing Lady Diana

At the end of the day, unlike reality, fiction is there to be tampered with, it happens everywhere in nearly every film, actually it happens alot with non fiction films where they change and manipulate timelines to suit the film, even making up stuff that never happened in real life. Seem that people only really get jumpy when it comes down to race, which again, given its total fiction in the first place looks massively pathetic
Click to expand...

Don't start us on a "but it's true, I saw it in a movie about it." roundabout.
 
MartyFunkhouser said:
Mate with all due respect she is playing a role in a total fantasy piece of writing. Its hardly taking artist license on playing Lady Diana

At the end of the day, unlike reality, fiction is there to be tampered with, it happens everywhere in nearly every film, actually it happens alot with non fiction films where they change and manipulate timelines to suit the film, even making up stuff that never happened in real life. Seem that people only really get jumpy when it comes down to race, which again, given its total fiction in the first place looks massively pathetic
Click to expand...

Search this thread. They were jumpy about Cruise playing Jack Reacher.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back