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We are all aware some kid makes the cheap shirts for a $1 a week. Some don't give a fudge they get a cheap shirt who cares about the people making them. They might feel differently if there son or daughter was being used as child labour.
 
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We are all aware some kid makes the cheap shirts for a $1 a week. Some don't give a fudge they get a cheap shirt who cares about the people making them. They might feel differently if there son or daughter was being used as child labour.

Does some other kid get paid much more to make the real one?

It's the same a piracy. If you charge a reasonable price for your product then people will but it. A Tottenham shirt is either £85 or £125. I would like to see the distribution of that money between the people involved in the process and compare what % the person who makes them get in each case.

If the shirts were cheaper more people would by them. If 3/4 different subscriptions wasn't needed to watch football, piracy would drop. The fact there isn't a season ticket package you can buy direct from the Premier League for your club is nothing but a continued fleecing of the fans.

I've got 2 kids. I can buy a full kit for them for £15 each or £60 from Spurs, unless it's Black Friday, today it's £38.50 each. If they were £25-£30 each I'd happily give the extra to Tottenham, but £120 for two kids kits? No.
 
Does some other kid get paid much more to make the real one?

It's the same a piracy. If you charge a reasonable price for your product then people will but it. A Tottenham shirt is either £85 or £125. I would like to see the distribution of that money between the people involved in the process and compare what % the person who makes them get in each case.

If the shirts were cheaper more people would by them. If 3/4 different subscriptions wasn't needed to watch football, piracy would drop. The fact there isn't a season ticket package you can buy direct from the Premier League for your club is nothing but a continued fleecing of the fans.

I've got 2 kids. I can buy a full kit for them for £15 each or £60 from Spurs, unless it's Black Friday, today it's £38.50 each. If they were £25-£30 each I'd happily give the extra to Tottenham, but £120 for two kids kits? No.
Mate if anyone is using child labour they should be outed that includes Nike, Adidas, puma & any other brand & I would encourage people not to buy there products. So I believe no child should ever be making fake or real goods it should be stopped & people should be arrested & charged

As long as you understand you are buying a fake shirt probably made from child labour & you are happy with your decision all good. I would ask you would you be happy for your children to be used that way.

Maybe if we stop buying them they will not be used as slaves. As I said we all know it happens we choose to ignore it & by buying them it will keep young children making our cheap shirts.

No idea what premier league subs has to do with child labour. I pay my subs I don't stream it illegally. maybe if more people paid for football the price would come down.

I doubt I will change anyones opinion but child slavery & forced labour is a problem that needs to be stopped. That includes us not buying fake goods
 
Does some other kid get paid much more to make the real one?

It's the same a piracy. If you charge a reasonable price for your product then people will but it. A Tottenham shirt is either £85 or £125. I would like to see the distribution of that money between the people involved in the process and compare what % the person who makes them get in each case.

If the shirts were cheaper more people would by them. If 3/4 different subscriptions wasn't needed to watch football, piracy would drop. The fact there isn't a season ticket package you can buy direct from the Premier League for your club is nothing but a continued fleecing of the fans.

I've got 2 kids. I can buy a full kit for them for £15 each or £60 from Spurs, unless it's Black Friday, today it's £38.50 each. If they were £25-£30 each I'd happily give the extra to Tottenham, but £120 for two kids kits? No.

We live in a market economy it's got nothing to do with ethics or morality and it's great we all benefit from it, I know this as politicians and the people who have bought them have told me.
 
Mate if anyone is using child labour they should be outed that includes Nike, Adidas, puma & any other brand & I would encourage people not to buy there products. So I believe no child should ever be making fake or real goods it should be stopped & people should be arrested & charged

As long as you understand you are buying a fake shirt probably made from child labour & you are happy with your decision all good. I would ask you would you be happy for your children to be used that way.

Maybe if we stop buying them they will not be used as slaves. As I said we all know it happens we choose to ignore it & by buying them it will keep young children making our cheap shirts.

No idea what premier league subs has to do with child labour. I pay my subs I don't stream it illegally. maybe if more people paid for football the price would come down.

I doubt I will change anyones opinion but child slavery & forced labour is a problem that needs to be stopped. That includes us not buying fake goods

I agree with your general point, but let’s not pretend Nike et al are perfect companies: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nike_sweatshops

The reason fake kits have been so popular is because the quality is now mostly indistinguishable. I’d say there’s a very good chance many of them are made by the same people in the same factories.
 
Does some other kid get paid much more to make the real one?

It's the same a piracy. If you charge a reasonable price for your product then people will but it. A Tottenham shirt is either £85 or £125. I would like to see the distribution of that money between the people involved in the process and compare what % the person who makes them get in each case.

If the shirts were cheaper more people would by them. If 3/4 different subscriptions wasn't needed to watch football, piracy would drop. The fact there isn't a season ticket package you can buy direct from the Premier League for your club is nothing but a continued fleecing of the fans.

I've got 2 kids. I can buy a full kit for them for £15 each or £60 from Spurs, unless it's Black Friday, today it's £38.50 each. If they were £25-£30 each I'd happily give the extra to Tottenham, but £120 for two kids kits? No.
Just don’t let them stand by an open fire.
 
No idea what premier league subs has to do with child labour. I pay my subs I don't stream it illegally. maybe if more people paid for football the price would come down.
I think that's very unlikely...the sucking sound is from the top.

I doubt I will change anyones opinion but child slavery & forced labour is a problem that needs to be stopped. That includes us not buying fake goods
I agree.

Shein, teemu, TikTok shop, DHgate etc all likely thrive off what you suggest...the prices more than suggest that. But those channels popularity thrive off shriveled disposable incomes and go ethically unchecked as it's just a flood of parcels arriving from GHod knows where.
 
Mate if anyone is using child labour they should be outed that includes Nike, Adidas, puma & any other brand & I would encourage people not to buy there products. So I believe no child should ever be making fake or real goods it should be stopped & people should be arrested & charged

As long as you understand you are buying a fake shirt probably made from child labour & you are happy with your decision all good. I would ask you would you be happy for your children to be used that way.

Maybe if we stop buying them they will not be used as slaves. As I said we all know it happens we choose to ignore it & by buying them it will keep young children making our cheap shirts.

No idea what premier league subs has to do with child labour. I pay my subs I don't stream it illegally. maybe if more people paid for football the price would come down.

I doubt I will change anyones opinion but child slavery & forced labour is a problem that needs to be stopped. That includes us not buying fake goods

None of those brands turn the profit margins they do by paying everyone a fiar wage, either at home or abroad.

I agree with all you've said. It still stands that the 'fake' items are often made in the same warehouse, by the same kids and then just skimmed off the top, this goes from football shirts to high fashion and electrical goods.

My point being is that not buying fake goods in reality won't make a bit of difference to child labour, slave labour etc. Companies move countries to avoid paying a decent wage, children mine for stones so people can put them on engagement rings.

The easiest, best and long lasting way to stop labour abuse is for companies to pay their staff more, and charge less to the customer. Which will mean less profit, which will never happen.

The share of what Adidas and Nike spend on making a pair of shoes that goes into workers' pockets has fallen since the early 1990s, said the Clean Clothes Campaign (CCC), citing a shift in manufacturing from China to cheaper countries such as Indonesia.
"The share of production costs of Nike and Adidas shoes that ends up in a worker's pocket is now a staggering 30 percent less than in the early 1990s (2.5 percent in 2017 for Nike shoes compared with 4 percent in 1995)," the CCC said in a statement.
"The brands decided to spend their money on football players rather than on the workers stitching their shirts and shoes."

Much of Adidas' and Nike's sportswear is made in Indonesia, where 80 percent of workers in the garment sector are women and some make as little as 86 euros ($102) a month while others do not earn the legal minimum wage, according to the CCC's report
 
Fake shirts being made in the same factory is a bit of an urban myth - my mate loves a knock-off from the sites everyone talks about and they stand out as snide a mile away
 
Fake shirts being made in the same factory is a bit of an urban myth - my mate loves a knock-off from the sites everyone talks about and they stand out as snide a mile away

Not really

There are loads of products made for different markets at the same location.

Yeah there are guys printing small scale, but there are numerous first hand accounts of how goods are distributed from the point of production.

Fake can encapsulate goods exported under false presence for example to avoid tax being paid.
 
Fake shirts being made in the same factory is a bit of an urban myth - my mate loves a knock-off from the sites everyone talks about and they stand out as snide a mile away
It depends on the products, but a lot of "fake Nike" trainers were historically made on the same production lines using the same moulds but just at night when the factory was "closed." As this became more apparent, I think its now more about genuine moulds being stolen/replicated rather than them being made on the same exact factory line but its kind of the same end result.
 
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