We're always going to be the 6th place club until:
i was over the moon when draxler signed a new contract with schalke, i thought thers no chance hed ever go arsenal. i cant believe utd, city(although they tried in the summer) and chelsea arnt going for him. hes perfect for those teams and wayyyy more suited to united than mata. id rather he go anywhere than arsenal.
i thought this was our chance this year but ozil draxler at arsenal, mata shaw and whoever else at united. i fear we"ll never break them now
I agree with mumorn, the top 3 are gone and I think our squad compares favourably with the sides around us, I'd give united the best chance as they have 3 excellent weapons (albeit 2 are injured right now) and a proven manager in moyes, Everton don't have a massive squad and this is new territory for Martinez, the dippers are managed by an idiot despite their excellent front line
Weve only been outside of the top 5 twice in the last 7 years
yes but that has coincided with Liverpool dramatically losing their way - in terms of finances we're the 6th biggest club, so all things being equal and everyone getting their moneys worth we're 6th. we need to carry on buying smart as we have been and hope we can get together a side better than our rivals, as we did with the VdV/Modric/Bale/Adebayor side - no reason to think we can't build a side that's better than our rivals if we're smart - but's it's not a given - and when we do so, we need to make sure we don't **** it up the wall again
yes but that has coincided with Liverpool dramatically losing their way (and for one season Chelsea) - in terms of finances we're the 6th biggest club, so all things being equal and everyone getting their moneys worth we're 6th. we need to carry on buying smart as we have been and hope we can get together a side better than our rivals, as we did with the VdV/Modric/Bale/Adebayor side - no reason to think we can't build a side that's better than our rivals if we're smart - but's it's not a given - and when we do so, we need to make sure we don't **** it up the wall again
This all goes back to the last two seasons when we have failed to topple arsenal to CL
A lot of people in here said that we should not be thinking about arsenal etc.
Sorry but if you are from North london and have to interact with these arrogant self satisfying ****s you'd understand why it was so important to get one over on them.
Not only are their fans goading us but so are their players (Ozil, Walcott doing the 2-0 signs recently)
We are to blame for arsenal's recent ascendency, the likes of ozil and draxler would not be looking at them if they were not in the CL
GB says we need a new stadium and a DOF who will work with the 1st team coach to move forward. I say we need a new mentality - from the manager, the chairman and the fans
So we should be 6th? Well why did we sack Jol? A manager who truly loved working for us, had a genuine connection with the club and was getting us 5th consistently.
Read my post above - a new mentality is needed. Stop thinking like a loser.
Whilst I agree that we are in the position we are in for not securing Champions League, I don't agree that we are in this position for not toppling Arsenal. A lot of people on here are right when they say we shouldn't think about Arsenal. Why would we? We are Tottenham. They are our rivals, right. But that doesn't mean we should think about them. The only time I think about them is when we play them and I want us to win, that's it. Rest of the season, **** them, who cares.
Mentality comes through winning things. We have been perennial bottlers for years. I have no doubt if Arsenal finished 5th they'd still be right back up there the following season regardless of Champions League. They have a philosophy and it shows. Wenger's second string could probably get far enough in the Europa League for him to care about it.
We will NEVER be bigger than Arsenal until we've gone through a period of winning things every year and they haven't and are constantly finishing above them. Even if we had finished above them 2 years ago when we were 10 points clear or whatever it was or last year when we were 8 points clear, it still wouldnt have made us bigger or better. It would have been fun and we would have had immense bragging rights, but they are capable of runs like they had last year and they are having this year and we quite frankly, aren't.
You are right about the "mentality" though, Although I feel a philosophy would be more important.
We are miles behind Arsenal, Chelsea and Emirates Marketing Project so we really shouldn't be comparing ourselves to those.
Liverpool haven't strengthened in the window yet so that is a positive. Mata to Man Utd is obviously huge for them and I have no doubt he will perform but I feel we have given ourselves a good platform to finish above them, our injured players coming back will feel like new signings and we are already 6 points clear of them at the moment. It'll be exciting though.
Weve only been outside of the top 5 twice in the last 7 years
well under Jol we never had City to contend with so we were the 5th in those years.
and besides you have totally missed the point of what i was saying
football is a money game - if you pay the most money you rightly expect to be the best - if you don't pay the most money you have to come up with another way of making it to the top : punch above your weight in other words. no reason why we can't do that - we have done it in the past and probably had the 2nd/3rd best team in the league in Redknapps final season, so there's no reason not to aim that high again