Managerial spectrum

[par_18]

Clearly i am very bored. Thought id try get a managerial spectrum going similar to some political models. Used Motivator as opposite to Tactician, not sure if this is the total opposite so feedback appreciated. Where would you rate other managers on the scale? To get started id probably put Harry as x-9 y-7, Glenn Hoddle as 9,9 and Ferguson maybe x9,y-1 . Be good to get a decent list and good input than make a finished model with decent graphics.

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------------------------- (X) LIBERTARIAN -10 -9 -8 -7 -6 -5 -4 -3 -2 -1 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 AUTHORITARIAN​

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[scaramanga]

You really need to plot that on an x-y axis. Many managers at both and it would be interesting to see where they lie on that.

 

[scaramanga]

*are both*

 

[Mulletperm]

 

[ArcspacE]

Arry is womehere between a Motivator and a Libertarian, imv

 

[Spursalot]

Wait, could a manager not be both a tactician and a motivator?

:-s

 

[par_18]

Yeah definitely so theyd be a 0 on the y axis, someone like Ferguson id say.

 

[Raziel]

Not trying to screw with your model, but I think it's more than two items

Motivator (does being able to find/see something in players others overlooked fall in there?)
Tactician - Team setup, counter opposition, formations/etc.
Coach - Well drilled/disciplined teams that take advantage of things like set pieces/percentage plays

Almost no one is all three, SAF usually hires someone for the Coach role, a few managers fit the Coach mole more than anything else.

 

[Rorschach]

Each manager need a a pie chart if this is to work.

 

[Spursalot]

Yeah definitely so theyd be a 0 on the y axis, someone like Ferguson id say.

But ferguson is a brilliant tactician and motivator.

If he was at 0, it would suggest he was crap at both.


For the graph to work the things at opposite ends of each axis have to be opposites.

 

[par_18]

But ferguson is a brilliant tactician and motivator.

If he was at 0, it would suggest he was crap at both.


For the graph to work the things at opposite ends of each axis have to be opposites.

No it's not a ratings scale ie 1 crap 10 good, it's a spectrum illustrating managerial traits, so 0 would be well balanced, in the middle neither one extreme or the other.

 

[SUIYHA]

But ferguson is a brilliant tactician and motivator.

If he was at 0, it would suggest he was crap at both.


For the graph to work the things at opposite ends of each axis have to be opposites.

Not always the best tactician. Some of the decisions he makes, especially in big games, can be bizarre. Giggs and Scholes both starting against City as one, playing two up front and leaving out Nani in the Champions League final last year as another.

I'd say Mourinho is probably the best example of a top tactician and motivator.

 

[par_18]

Yeah mourinho would probably be somewhere very central on this model, very well rounded, balanced manager.

 

[Spursalot]

No it's not a ratings scale ie 1 crap 10 good, it's a spectrum illustrating managerial traits, so 0 would be well balanced, in the middle neither one extreme or the other.

0 would be well balanced, so as much of a tactician as a motivator.


So if somebody is crap at motivation, and crap at tactics they would still be 0. Thus the flaw.

 

[Rossi22]

Tough crowd

 

[Armenia Spur]

 

[southstand1882]

Could we do the same for posters?

Knee Jerkiness, Balanced Views, Science, Emotions

 

[Crawley]

Could we do the same for posters?

Knee Jerkiness, Balanced Views, Science, Emotions

There's not an axis chart yet invented that covers this lot.

 

[par_18]

0 would be well balanced, so as much of a tactician as a motivator.


So if somebody is crap at motivation, and crap at tactics they would still be 0. Thus the flaw.

Again, not a ratings scale. So forget the numbers, you can replace them with letters if u like. Purely trying to show managerial traits.

 

[The Moonlit Knight]

Again, not a ratings scale. So forget the numbers, you can replace them with letters if u like. Purely trying to show managerial traits.

If you wanted to score it you could just go the other way. The more they tend to one way, the lower their ability because a) they are unbalanced and b) they rely too much on one trait. There aren't many 0's around that's for sure.