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Jimmy McCormick
Because we didn't go on a tour of America? He's had enough time on the training pitch.
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Jose Mourinho - SACKED
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Because we didn't go on a tour of America? He's had enough time on the training pitch.
StephenH
David Ginola
the telegraph said simular
ricky2tricky4city
Tom Huddlestone
If you think things thru logically and then apply some expectations from that process then.....
If you are selecting 2 or 3 of PEH Winks and Sissoko don't expect creativity, incisive passing, interplay/closeness with the 4 men ahead. We know that (even as fans) and Jose knows that.
So (rightfully) he employs the compact sit back tactic that creates chances by nicking the ball high up or fast counter attacks from being under pressure.
That's fair enough, it's no different to a successful Leicester approach and even Liverpool to some degree (although they have top class FBs contributing to attack).
And this appears a plausible tactic as we have Kane Dele Sonny Moura Bergwijn. Firepower to scare most teams. Where it falls down is those players are either head down or far too selfish (not inc Bergwijn) to make the best of those moments.
Dele does dally BUT when in the moment and playing in small spaces off the cuff he excels..he's not a great counter attacker, he needs it all going on around him so instinct takes over. The current tactics don't suit his game. I'd play Bergwijn over him .
Compare this to Vardy Mahrez Allbrighton. Firminio Salah Mane.
The only way to look good in the coming months is if we can get the creativity and link up from behind to increase and that basically means La Celso and Ndombele coming good, and PEH needs to sit and destroy (him currently running all round midfield just makes things look disorderly/unstructured)
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We've entered last season Mourinho phase a year early
Bedfordspurs
Martin Peters
Some players haven’t had any time
Kane has had 2 days
Doherty 2 days
we had 7 players who started away on internationals plus subs
That’s not how to prep... that’s gambling that players come back
glorygloryeze
Ian Walker
What about Everton? Didn't some of their players only sign very recently? Yet, they looked so much more drilled and had a gameplan for attacking and creating chances..
Baleforce
Ron Henry
Agree, mostly, but I think Alli will be crucial to any success, we need to get more chances to him, he used to get more space in the middle as Kane would move wider and deeper than he has been over the last 18 moths.
Bedfordspurs
Martin Peters
Yeah they did
But they looked fresh as oddly they hasn’t been playing and travelling
Baleforce
Ron Henry
do you think they all gave it everything today?
glorygloryeze
Ian Walker
I think you should quit with the excuses now; the excuses, like our gameplay generally, aren't good enough
Bedfordspurs
Martin Peters
Their not excuses their facts
An excuse would be their free kick being 5 metres ahead like Jose said ... which was gonad*s
But people claiming he has had 2 pre seasons are also talking gonad*s
That's the managers fault iirc
ricky2tricky4city
Tom Huddlestone
Yes he can be but in a more connected side.
And perhaps Kane is moving less wider and deeper because Jose has said 'youre my front man, your my goalscorer' ?
Baleforce
Ron Henry
responsibility of all involved, coaches and the players themselves
Baleforce
Ron Henry
if thats the case its a tactical mistake he needs to correct, its depriving two players of goal scoring opportunities
glorygloryeze
Ian Walker
It's probably also factual for lots of teams in the top 6-8, like Liverpool, Arsenal etc. Yes, i believe bringing that up for why we were so turgid (unlike Everton plus some other teams that also had players away) is making excuses.
But let's park that. So Ok, what can you see in terms of gameplay that Jose has instilled since he's been here? Apart from making us defend deeper?
Is our forward gameplay any better? Can we create chances apart from on the break, from set-pieces or crosses into the box?
I haven't seen what Jose is bringing to the team in terms of coaching; like another poster said, after the initial new manager bounce, there's not much in terms of actual coaching that i can see Jose is bringing to the table frankly
Another thing which is a manager's responsibility is making players better. Can anyone answer this:
Can you name one player, just one, who has looked better since Mourinho arrived than we thought he was before Mourinho (i.e. has he improved anyone)?
ricky2tricky4city
Tom Huddlestone
But that second half is nothing but a worry.
It's the start of the season FFS...fresh start, spirit up. That goal then literally smashed our belief and effort.
Baleforce
Ron Henry
Lloris, considerably.
Moura has more value to the team now imo.
He's reversed the trajectory of Dier and Toby, not at their best, but better than the 2 years previous certainly.