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Hugo Lloris

the way things are, he's going back to Lyon on loan in January, spend the rest of the season there, get his confidence back up, and return for the new season as new no 1.
 
a French journalist came on the radio gave an insight into Lloris before he signed for us. It was during all the speculation in the summer.

This is an article from the summer and also mentions that Lloris is an introverted character

http://www.goal.com/en-ng/news/4082/editorial/2012/07/11/3234304/time-to-earn-his-spurs-lloris-can-silence-unjust-criticism

I had heard the opposite myself (not sure where from) - that he was a strong character, and hence was made national team captain inspite of his age and position.
 
It is possible to be both an introvert and a strong character.

I was thinking the same thing.

So far he looks like a strong character to me. After his mistake against Maribor he just kept going about his business receiving back passes and making good passes out even when put under a bit of pressure, didn't panic at all. He's also kept making what I think are good decisions on crosses despite occasionally missing one (like all goalies do).

He also looked to deal with being thrown into the derby game without any trouble.
 
In my mind we should now start Lloris all the time. This season we aren't getting top four in my opinion, so we should play him to give him a chance to be settled ready for the FA Cup in the short term and next season.

Dont think top 4 is out however agree that we're better off having a settled team and back four. Freidel has done well but is the past and is unlikely to be around next season. We need to move on
 
Dont think top 4 is out however agree that we're better off having a settled team and back four. Freidel has done well but is the past and is unlikely to be around next season. We need to move on

It's a sad dig at Lloris suggesting he's not Top 4 material, nothing more
 
It's a sad dig at Lloris suggesting he's not Top 4 material, nothing more

You really are a paranoid man aren't you?

I never said Lloris isn't top four material. I said that I don't think top four is on this season so we're better off getting him in the team now to give him a chance to settle in in time for the FA Cup and so that next season he is fully bedded in for the top four challenge.
 
Dont think top 4 is out however agree that we're better off having a settled team and back four. Freidel has done well but is the past and is unlikely to be around next season. We need to move on

I don't think we're good enough for top four. We weren't really top four last season but thanks to Chelsea's Premier League implosion we managed it, but we are weaker than last season and even if one of the top four implode again I don't think it will be us who takes advantage.

I do agree with the Friedel comment though. Lloris is our future and we need to get him in sooner rather than later.
 
You really are a paranoid man aren't you?

I never said Lloris isn't top four material. I said that I don't think top four is on this season so we're better off getting him in the team now to give him a chance to settle in in time for the FA Cup and so that next season he is fully bedded in for the top four challenge.

I wonder if you'll get an apology for his misunderstanding.
 
I don't think we're good enough for top four. We weren't really top four last season we are weaker than last season and even if one of the top four implode again I don't think it will be us who takes advantage.
Have we ever been good enough for top 4 ? Do you think we will ever in the future be good enough for top 4?
 
You really are a paranoid man aren't you?

I never said Lloris isn't top four material. I said that I don't think top four is on this season so we're better off getting him in the team now to give him a chance to settle in in time for the FA Cup and so that next season he is fully bedded in for the top four challenge.

So why wouldn't you play Lloris if Top 4 was still on in your mind? (I think it is but that's another story)

Here's your post from few pages back

If we truly believe top four is gone, and I don't think it was ever on the cards, then I agree we play Lloris and build for the future. If we think top four is on, we have to play our strongest team regardless of age and that means Friedel has to start.

Further on you stated that Lloris' previous reputation means nothing because you hadn't seen him prior to the PL concluding there is no way in fudge he can be any good or better than the above average Brad.

All logic suggests - He is the superior keeper, he is here for the long term, and he should be starting every game because he is part of our strongest 11.
 
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So I ask again - on what grounds in your view is Bardley the Top 4 superior keeper and Lloris the little nothing cup specialist wanna-be?
 
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So why wouldn't you play Lloris if Top 4 was still on in your mind? (I think it is but that's another story)

Here's your post from few pages back



Further on you stated that Lloris' previous reputation means nothing because you hadn't seen him prior to the PL concluding there is no way in fudge he can be any good or better than the above average Brad.

All logic suggests - He is the superior keeper, he is here for the long term, and he should be starting every game because he is part of our strongest 11.

Friedel has done nothing wrong and doesn't deserve to be dropped on performance therefore on performance alone he should start.

However Lloris will almost certainly be a superior keeper to Friedel after he has bedded in for a few weeks. During that bedding in period I expect mistakes. Mistakes that cost us points in the short term. If top four was on the cards then you can't afford to lose points to mistakes. I don't think top four is on the cards and therefore this is an ideal season to now put Lloris in so he will be fully bedded in for the FA Cup and next season.

I don't really see why you are continually and in my mind intentionally trying to make out what I am saying to be different to what I am actually saying. Every post you reply to of mine you try and spin it or accuse me of having some sort of hidden agenda. It's beginning to irk me.
 
Have we ever been good enough for top 4 ? Do you think we will ever in the future be good enough for top 4?

In the Premier League era, and obviously comparative to the opposition at the time, I would say the only time we've had a first XI that was within the top four best first XI's, if all players were fit, in the country would be 1994/95.

The two seasons we've actually made top four in the Premier League era I think we had the fifth best team in the country but two of the top four best teams faltered and that let us in. Which isn't downplaying our achievement because we played as well as we could over the course of a season and that is all you can really ask for.
 
Friedel has done nothing wrong and doesn't deserve to be dropped on performance therefore on performance alone he should start.

However Lloris will almost certainly be a superior keeper to Friedel after he has bedded in for a few weeks. During that bedding in period I expect mistakes. Mistakes that cost us points in the short term. If top four was on the cards then you can't afford to lose points to mistakes. I don't think top four is on the cards and therefore this is an ideal season to now put Lloris in so he will be fully bedded in for the FA Cup and next season.

I don't really see why you are continually and in my mind intentionally trying to make out what I am saying to be different to what I am actually saying. Every post you reply to of mine you try and spin it or accuse me of having some sort of hidden agenda. It's beginning to irk me.

We have an ignore function, you should give it a try. I believe you're already well aware of how it works.
 
I'm sorry... I don't get this "Brad has done nothing wrong so should keep playing" argument. Say Lloris and Brad were injured and Carlo came in for 2 or 3 matches. He does nothing wrong but isn't spectacular. Does that mean he should keep his place once Lloris and Brad are fit? Surely at that point the BEST keeper goes back in goal. I'm not saying it should be Lloris or Brad playing, all I'm saying is AVB should play who he thinks is the best keeper.
 
I'm sorry... I don't get this "Brad has done nothing wrong so should keep playing" argument. Say Lloris and Brad were injured and Carlo came in for 2 or 3 matches. He does nothing wrong but isn't spectacular. Does that mean he should keep his place once Lloris and Brad are fit? Surely at that point the BEST keeper goes back in goal. I'm not saying it should be Lloris or Brad playing, all I'm saying is AVB should play who he thinks is the best keeper.

i agree with that, AVB just might not have made his mind up yet
 
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