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Ed Milliband repeats himself

Our country is fudged.

On one side we have david cameron, and on the other side, you have ed miliband.

Its like trying to decide what will hurt less, shooting yourself in your left ear or shooting yourself in the right ear

No it isn't. I've seen it all before, I've lived (and worked) through wage freezes, the three day week, power cut rotas, going cap in hand to the IMF. We always bounce back stronger.

It's cyclical. Make hay while the Sun shines but put a little away for rainy days, having the facility to draw your belt in when times get harder will see you through. Prudence will see you through the hard times if you're prepared, nothing will see you through a catastrophe. That's why they're called catastrophies.
 
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No it isn't. I've seen it all before, I've lived (and worked) through wage freezes, the three day week, power cut rotas, going cap in hand to the IMF. We always bounce back stronger.

It's cyclical. Make hay while the Sun shines but put a little away for rainy days, having the facility to draw your belt in when times get harder will see you through. Prudence will see you through the hard times if you're prepared, nothing will see you through a catastrophe. That's why they're called catasrophes.

Think you should run for office gordy. Wish the governments either party would follow the advice they seem to get carried away when in government as they say power corrupts.

I think this time is better then the 80's the seems to be a more caring approach in our socitey. Even the tories are nicer then in the 80's im bascially right wing though i voted UKIP yesterday and will forever more but i think they were quite tough in the 80's where as this time in some ways the cuts have not gone far enough. Oddly i think they are doing it lightly because they do not want to be seen as the nasty party.

As for individual people well i hope they use this time in our country to realise what really matters and to put a greater focus on education and qualifications.

I know a lady who has 3 children she is single after her husband left, once all her bills are paid she is left with ?ú10 a week to feed ther and the children, the children are 20, 14 and 8 the 20 year old works in the harbour club behind the bar and earns ?ú50 a week and does not give any to her mum but spends it on coffee and clothes shopping.

My point in telling this story is that i think it is time some people in this country need to grow up and stop living like there a character in a t.v. show. I try to make this point to my son who we have in private school, both me and his mum struggled and worked hard and still do work to give him the best but i sometimes wonder whether the younger generation realise this. Think this recession is acting as a wake up call to some.

Maybe even myself as i had to go back to the locksmithing as well as driving the cab at night to keep our lifestyle where we wanted it. People need to grow up and become adults i think.

As for the video about millbland well that could have been a guy from any party, keep going on and on and on about what you want and bore the crap out of people.
 
Think you should run for office gordy. Wish the governments either party would follow the advice they seem to get carried away when in government as they say power corrupts.

I think this time is better then the 80's the seems to be a more caring approach in our socitey. Even the tories are nicer then in the 80's im bascially right wing though i voted UKIP yesterday and will forever more but i think they were quite tough in the 80's where as this time in some ways the cuts have not gone far enough. Oddly i think they are doing it lightly because they do not want to be seen as the nasty party.

As for individual people well i hope they use this time in our country to realise what really matters and to put a greater focus on education and qualifications.

I know a lady who has 3 children she is single after her husband left, once all her bills are paid she is left with ?ú10 a week to feed ther and the children, the children are 20, 14 and 8 the 20 year old works in the harbour club behind the bar and earns ?ú50 a week and does not give any to her mum but spends it on coffee and clothes shopping.

My point in telling this story is that i think it is time some people in this country need to grow up and stop living like there a character in a t.v. show. I try to make this point to my son who we have in private school, both me and his mum struggled and worked hard and still do work to give him the best but i sometimes wonder whether the younger generation realise this. Think this recession is acting as a wake up call to some.

Maybe even myself as i had to go back to the locksmithing as well as driving the cab at night to keep our lifestyle where we wanted it. People need to grow up and become adults i think.

As for the video about millbland well that could have been a guy from any party, keep going on and on and on about what you want and bore the crap out of people.

Great post mate. Great post Gord!!!

People talk like its the 70's. It ain't.
 
Slightly off topic but... Well said Mr. Farage

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I so wish more people had the c ourage of their convictions and said what they felt like this, instead of pandering to the political elite purely to feather their own nest.
 
No one likes austerity.

People agree that we need to cut the DEFICIT, (no the debt as I keep hearing!!) just as long as THEY don't get the pinch.

Labour said they would cut 18% and the Tories 19% when the policies were looked at by the IESR before the last election. Labour said these would be ACROSS THE BOARD.......including the beloved NHS, which the Tories are protecting in real terms but there are still cuts in some areas due to the ever increasing demands for new drugs, an aging population and epidemic levels of obesity.

To pretend they could do any different is a fudging joke.

The reason the UK can currently finance is ?ú130 billion DEFICIT per year at German rates of interest, around 2%, is because the markets see we have a plan to balance the books and we are actually hitting the targets to reduce the deficit, (down ?ú60 BILLION in 2 years) France is 2% higher than us and Spain and Italy are above 6%.

If we have 6% interest rates it would increase the national annual DEBT interest bill from ?ú60 billion to around ?ú100 billion+ So another ?ú40 billion of cuts would need to be made.

In effect, NO ONE wants to cut, but it really is the lesser of two evils. Cut what YOU decide and balance the books or take orders from Berlin once the IMF need to be called in.

If you think i'm overstating this issue you're FLAT WRONG. Just look at Italy, (similar sized economy and population) absolutely fudged.

Spain has a higher GDP per capita than the UK but 25% unemployment and 50% for 18-25 year olds!! This is after a socialist government for 12 years.

Socialist government in Greece as well.

Now France will vote in a socialist who is peddling gonad*s about 75% tax rates and telling the 'markets' to fudge themselves.........lets just see how things pan out for France shall we??

Bottom line, when you aint got a fudging pot to tinkle YOU don't call the shots when you get the begging bowl out.

The UK is spending more this year than last year, (?ú700 billion +!!!!) and will keep spending more every fudging year for the rest of the parliament.

I argued before the last election that it would be a good one to lose. Looks like i'm being proved right!! But Labour are a bunch of lying ****s to pretend they have a fudging plan.


And just to add, if our interest rates go up, the banks will put up those on SVR mortgages immediately....completely wrecking the economy and any chance of a recovery.

Also - because the eurozone is such a fudging train wreck and we do 60% of our trade with them, it doesn't matter one fudging iota what we do, we will follow them into recession.

The US is being trumpeted as the plan to follow, but they have higher rates of poverty than us, higher unemployment and no social protection at all and a rip off healthcare system for the rich.

Even after the stimulus package their growth is also stalling now and people are asking, how is the $15 TRILLION, that's $15,000,000,000,000 by the way, FIFTEEN MILLION MILLIONS......is going to be paid back??

Of all the major economies I would rather be the UK, after Germany. Unemployment around 8%, a welfare state to speak of, (?ú200 billion a year, the single largest thing we spend money on and double the NHS budget) a house over everyones head, we will grow this year......of course things are brick. But the growth we had in the 2000's was fuelled by a housing bubble and record levels of personal credit, ?ú1.5 TRILLION worth!!

It was NEVER sustainable and was always going to end in tears. And even when we had a perfect opportunity to invest in infrastucture and pay down the debt for a rainy day what did we do? Employs thousands of extra 'community lesbian awareness consultants'

The mind boggles how fudging stupid the people of this country are.

Leeds - you often come across like a belligerent teenager on the Spurs board, but posts like this prove you should be the next Prime Minister.

If you can sum things up in 20 or so lines of text, why can't David Cameron & co. explain things so succinctly?

That is why people are disengaged from politics, it is so boring and whimsical and they never tell it how it is.

Why can't Tory politicians make these points clearly and smash Labour out of the water - if the Tories printed this up as Page 2 of every national newspaper, job done.

It was pitiful last night to see elderly imbeciles on the local news being targeted for comments; they just stared wildly and said "er... I voted Labour because the country is in the brick at the moment!"

Jesus H Christ - it would be funny if it wasn't so serious
 
Err, the socialists had been in office for about five minutes in Greece, then a national emergency executive took power. Conservatives fiddled while Rome burned there methinks! Arent they in power in Spain at present? Never mind, don't let the facts get in the way of your propaganda.
 
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Err, the socialists had been in office for about five minutes in Greece, then a national emergency executive took power. Conservatives fiddled while Rome burned there methinks! Arent they in power in Spain at present? Never mind, don't let the facts get in the way of your propaganda.

And wasn't it a right wing government in charge when the economy started to go in the tank in United States?

When Clinton was in charge, the economy in America was rocking, in a good way!
 
And wasn't it a right wing government in charge when the economy started to go in the tank in United States?

When Clinton was in charge, the economy in America was rocking, in a good way!

Yeah i loved clintons policy of giving mortgages to people that could not afford them which started off the banking crisis, that and giving bin laden a free run might have been even worse moves then stuffing his **** in his secretarys mouth. But hey he played the sax and was a cool guy yeahhhhhh top man that clinton.
 
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Leeds - you often come across like a belligerent teenager on the Spurs board, but posts like this prove you should be the next Prime Minister.

If you can sum things up in 20 or so lines of text, why can't David Cameron & co. explain things so succinctly?

That is why people are disengaged from politics, it is so boring and whimsical and they never tell it how it is.

Why can't Tory politicians make these points clearly and smash Labour out of the water - if the Tories printed this up as Page 2 of every national newspaper, job done.

It was pitiful last night to see elderly imbeciles on the local news being targeted for comments; they just stared wildly and said "er... I voted Labour because the country is in the brick at the moment!"

Jesus H Christ - it would be funny if it wasn't so serious

Cheers mate. Everyone I know says I should be in politics!!
 
And wasn't it a right wing government in charge when the economy started to go in the tank in United States?

When Clinton was in charge, the economy in America was rocking, in a good way!

Care to disagree with the rest?

Zapatero was a socialist. Rajoy was just voted in to try and clean up the mess.

Clinton was brilliant. He also presided over the dotcom boom that caused a recession in 2001. If I were aimerican I'd vote for him though.

Anyone with an alternative view care to put it out there? This miraculous silver bullet that's going to make all the bad stuff go away? No? Stfu then. :)
 
Slightly off topic but... Well said Mr. Farage

[video=youtube;2gm9q8uabTs]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gm9q8uabTs[/video]

I'm not the most Eurosceptic in the world, but I fear the worst for the future of this country when I'm an adult.

I fear the current 'member states' of the EU will turn in to a single country, governed by a federal government, like the USA, called the EU, with devolved powers being handed over to the states.

In fact, in my opinion, right now the EU is basically one country. There are open borders in between states, like the USA, they are controlled by a central government which all member states have to obey the laws of, a single currency (that thankfully we do not use, but may have to one day) and we pay taxes to them. Explain to me how I do not live in the same country as Romania. If the EU is not one country, then nor is the USA. Th EU is a country of everything by name.

I predict when I'm older the world will just turn in to superstates. Canada, the USA and Mexico will merge to form a massive USA; I can see the rest of Latin America coming together to form another superstate; the EU will be one country; I can see the Middle East become a single country, and the rest of the world I don't know.
 
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Care to disagree with the rest?

Zapatero was a socialist. Rajoy was just voted in to try and clean up the mess.

Clinton was brilliant. He also presided over the dotcom boom that caused a recession in 2001. If I were aimerican I'd vote for him though.

Anyone with an alternative view care to put it out there? This miraculous silver bullet that's going to make all the bad stuff go away? No? Stfu then. :)

Just trying to bring an alternate view to a very much one sided thread :)
 
I don't follow politics enough to get a handle on how Obama has done during his first term. He certainly inspires confidence when he talks.
 
I agreed with the Clinton bit. Successful socialist governments?

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