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Ebay, scam or go for it ?

I just brought two things from Ebay - an ethernet cable and some weights. I got the weights but ethernet coming tomorrow.

Do I get protection from Ebay? Is there any consumer protection as it were?
 
Scam written all over it, the account has been inactive for 2 years where the seller had sold a variety of items (jumpers, car parts etc..) all of a sudden in the last few weeks they are selling multiple iphone cases to get some recent good feedback, also note that it looks like a UK account but all the new stuff comes from Hong Kong, caveat emptor.
 
"Never received!!! Contacted seller - no response. No tracking info. Nothing. 10-Apr-12 05:28"
 
DHSF said:
I just brought two things from Ebay - an ethernet cable and some weights. I got the weights but ethernet coming tomorrow.

Do I get protection from Ebay? Is there any consumer protection as it were?
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With PayPal you always have consumer protection. If you don't get it soon you can open a dispute, in which case the seller will be forced to give evidence of postage or the money is given back.

eBay is very safe, as long as you pay with PayPal, and read the description carefully
 
In the case of this iPad, the seller only has feedback on these iPhone cases he sells, and his only negative feedback comes from that, whereas he had more positive feedbacks to show that he is a good seller. Most sellers have one negative feedback here and there and I guess if I was in your shoes I would buy it, as long as it's with PayPal. His feedback score seems good, apart from that one little negative, and with PayPal you're always protected.

As one who used to do a lot of dealings on eBay, I would go for it, and if it's a scam (which is very unlikely) you will be reimbursed by PayPal

More information: http://pages.ebay.co.uk/ebaybuyerprotection/
https://www.paypal-marketing.co.uk/safetyadvice/BuyerProtectionOffEbay.htm
 
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COYS said:
With PayPal you always have consumer protection. If you don't get it soon you can open a dispute, in which case the seller will be forced to give evidence of postage or the money is given back.

eBay is very safe, as long as you pay with PayPal, and read the description carefully
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COYS said:
With PayPal you always have consumer protection. If you don't get it soon you can open a dispute, in which case the seller will be forced to give evidence of postage or the money is given back.

eBay is very safe, as long as you pay with PayPal, and read the description carefully
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I do that - in fact I tend to either email or call the buyer. Read too many horror stories - such as Yiddo's one.

Also I wont buy anything from ebay which is above 50 quid. I buy stuff like an ethernet cable because its really low risk.
 
If you pay via PayPal then you have no issues. PayPal is the safest way to pay online by miles. You can file a dispute if your item does not come, and PayPal will take the money from the seller's account and put it back in to yours if there are any issues, and sellers can't just use false details or whatever, because PayPal have very stringent measures in place to confirm identities and bank account details, which I have been through.

I've bought big money things on eBay and have had no problem.

Someone I know once tried to start fudging people over on eBay, but didn't get very far before he got done by PayPal.
 
I wish I could give such a glowing endorsement of PayPal.

About 18mths ago I received an email overnight 'confirming my ?ú5,588 Payment' - a transaction which was done at 02:34 in the morning. Now, unless I'd walked to Spearmint Rhino - this was not me.

So, I flagged the transaction - made to some English School - as fraud to PayPal, and rang them up to make sure it was flagged and the wheels were in motion. They assured me there was absolutely nothing to worry about. Few days later, I receive another email from PayPal, but this time informing me that my 'appeal' as they term it was dismissed "due to insufficient evidence."

As you can imagine, this somewhat fudged me off. I rang PayPal, at least 4 times and - without a shadow of a doubt - they are absolutely fudging useless. So, I went to the police, gave them the details of the company who'd received the money, and the Sergeant rang them in front of me. The guy said he'd been the victim of a ?ú100k scam, my transaction being one of them. The Sergeant warned him to refund me the money or he'd be arrested for theft.

So, I went back to PayPal with this evidence. Bearing in mind a Sergeant from the Metropolitan Police has just obtained this evidence, you'd think PayPal might be interested? Nah - what a bunch of fudging c??nts. I didn't stop there, as I'm not having ?ú5.5k just walk out of my account. So I rang the fella up myself, and he said PayPal had been talking to him about it, were aware of the fraud, and yet PayPal dismiss my claim on ground of "insufficient evidence"? You tell me: what sort of a fudging company does that?

So then I rang Barclays, and they were able to pull the money back instantly and also put a stop on any requests from PayPal. Sweet, happy fudging days! :D At this point, I couldn't give a toss about PayPal. The next day, I received an email, saying my PayPal balance was in debt to the tune of -?ú5,558, and that I should take action to rectify it :lol: Yeah - right. The following day, I receive a call from PayPal - again, saying that I'm in debt to them! :ross:

Two weeks of 'your balance has insufficient funds' emails arrived...and were duly ignored. Then they stopped. So I checked my PayPal account: ?ú0. Yes, that's right PayPal - I'm no fudging criminal, yet you treated me like one and you didn't even have the decency to apologise. I had to go to the police and my bank to get my money back, because your brick company lied to me.

I used to be a frequent user of both eBay & PayPal - but, since this episode, I've used neither. The idea that they're either secure or you'll get your money back is complete and utter flimflam. If you want to take a flyer on a risky advert like that on eBay - go ahead, but don't fool yourself that PayPal will automatically refund you the money, should you find yourself scammed. You've been warned.
 
Yeah see - thats why I dont use Ebay or Paypal much.

I have made 18 purchases in 11 years on Ebay and will never buy major products only stuff that is obvious in its description and really high feedback oh yeah and shops. Only shops. Never from someone individually.
 
Sheikh Ma Nuggets said:
I wish I could give such a glowing endorsement of PayPal.

About 18mths ago I received an email overnight 'confirming my ?ú5,588 Payment' - a transaction which was done at 02:34 in the morning. Now, unless I'd walked to Spearmint Rhino - this was not me.

So, I flagged the transaction - made to some English School - as fraud to PayPal, and rang them up to make sure it was flagged and the wheels were in motion. They assured me there was absolutely nothing to worry about. Few days later, I receive another email from PayPal, but this time informing me that my 'appeal' as they term it was dismissed "due to insufficient evidence."

As you can imagine, this somewhat fudged me off. I rang PayPal, at least 4 times and - without a shadow of a doubt - they are absolutely fudging useless. So, I went to the police, gave them the details of the company who'd received the money, and the Sergeant rang them in front of me. The guy said he'd been the victim of a ?ú100k scam, my transaction being one of them. The Sergeant warned him to refund me the money or he'd be arrested for theft.

So, I went back to PayPal with this evidence. Bearing in mind a Sergeant from the Metropolitan Police has just obtained this evidence, you'd think PayPal might be interested? Nah - what a bunch of fudging c??nts. I didn't stop there, as I'm not having ?ú5.5k just walk out of my account. So I rang the fella up myself, and he said PayPal had been talking to him about it, were aware of the fraud, and yet PayPal dismiss my claim on ground of "insufficient evidence"? You tell me: what sort of a fudging company does that?

So then I rang Barclays, and they were able to pull the money back instantly and also put a stop on any requests from PayPal. Sweet, happy fudging days! :D At this point, I couldn't give a toss about PayPal. The next day, I received an email, saying my PayPal balance was in debt to the tune of -?ú5,558, and that I should take action to rectify it :lol: Yeah - right. The following day, I receive a call from PayPal - again, saying that I'm in debt to them! :ross:

Two weeks of 'your balance has insufficient funds' emails arrived...and were duly ignored. Then they stopped. So I checked my PayPal account: ?ú0. Yes, that's right PayPal - I'm no fudging criminal, yet you treated me like one and you didn't even have the decency to apologise. I had to go to the police and my bank to get my money back, because your brick company lied to me.

I used to be a frequent user of both eBay & PayPal - but, since this episode, I've used neither. The idea that they're either secure or you'll get your money back is complete and utter flimflam. If you want to take a flyer on a risky advert like that on eBay - go ahead, but don't fool yourself that PayPal will automatically refund you the money, should you find yourself scammed. You've been warned.
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But that's different, because you didn't buy something.

This guy I know, he was selling counterfeit Beats by Dr Dre on eBay, but he was under the impression they were real. What he did is whenever he'd receive an order on eBay, he'd quickly go and buy some Beats by Dr Dre off TradeTang (a Chinese wholesale website that specialises in counterfeit goods), and he thought he'd get away with waiting for them to come from China, before quickly despatching them to customers. Now these people didn't know anything. All they saw were Beats by Dr Dre that were meant to cost ?ú280 or something like that, but they were buying them for about half the price. He got a lot of messages asking if they were real, and he said they were, because he thought that.

But the problem was this guy was getting about 10 orders a day, and he was too young to have a bank account or anything. Within about a week he reached his ?ú2100 limit and got mega fudged. This meant he wasn't able to spend his PayPal money, but he was still receiving orders, so he could no longer buy any more headphones when people ordered them.

Then the disputes started rolling in, and his PayPal account got banned so now he could no longer receive money, which I suppose was a good thing. But now he couldn't give these people their money back. PayPal wanted proof he actually had the items in stock, and they wanted proof of ID as well as a bank account linked to his PayPal. Obviously he couldn't provide any of this.

In the end, PayPal just gave these innocent people back their money and no harm was done.
 
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But that's different, because you didn't buy something.

This guy I know, he was selling counterfeit Beats by Dr Dre on eBay, but he was under the impression they were real. What he did is whenever he'd receive an order on eBay, he'd quickly go and buy some Beats by Dr Dre off TradeTang (a Chinese wholesale website that specialises in counterfeit goods), and he thought he'd get away with waiting for them to come from China, before quickly despatching them to customers. Now these people didn't know anything. All they saw were Beats by Dr Dre that were meant to cost ?ú280 or something like that, but they were buying them for about half the price. He got a lot of messages asking if they were real, and he said they were, because he thought that.

But the problem was this guy was getting about 10 orders a day, and he was too young to have a bank account or anything. Within about a week he reached his ?ú2100 limit and got mega fudged. This meant he wasn't able to spend his PayPal money, but he was still receiving orders, so he could no longer buy any more headphones when people ordered them.

Then the disputes started rolling in, and his PayPal account got banned so now he could no longer receive money, which I suppose was a good thing. But now he couldn't give these people their money back. PayPal wanted proof he actually had the items in stock, and they wanted proof of ID as well as a bank account linked to his PayPal. Obviously he couldn't provide any of this.

In the end, PayPal just gave these innocent people back their money and no harm was done.
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My friend, there's no difference at all.

PayPal are merely conduits, but conduits whose 'security' comprises of just a username and a password - yet there is an open door, direct into your bank account. If that 'security' (I seriously laugh) is compromised, then it's an open chequebook to defraud anyone of any single sum of money you so wish.

The problem, is about conduct and behaviour. Prior to this episode, I'd been a user of both PayPal and eBay - respectable sums of money passing through both, over a lengthy period of time. If one of your customers tells you that you're the victim of fraud, then it pays to sit up and listen to them. What you DON'T do, is ignore them, treat them like a criminal and then call them liars.

I now advise people to stay WELL CLEAR of PayPal. PayPal is marketed as being an easy way to transfer money. Yeah, it is - too easy, and too easy to be scammed on, and very hard to get your money back. The problem is though, you just don't think about it, do you? Yet, look at how much banks spend on online security; pin codes, tokens, pensentry, etc... And yet, if you're on PayPal, all of that security can be compromised with a mere email and password. Bang - direct account into your bank account.

A lot of internet sites use PayPal these days, but I'm happy to ignore using it. It isn't safe, it isn't secure and - worst of all - they treat you like brick if something goes wrong. That just aint good enough.
 
PayPal, in my experience, are fudging hard to deal with and I would never ever be confident spending big money thinking they had my back.

They're very handy for certain things, but you have to take your own precautions with anything you do online.
 
i think im correct in sasying that PayPal arnt actually covered by things like the banking code, and lets be honest - you wouldnt bank with someone that wasnt prepared as a company to adhere to that
 
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