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japenesegardenlover said:
My true colours? i have said for years i have been a UKIP member long before we became fashionable, i always knew i was a trend setter. But yeah i love maggie i will never hide that, the woman is a GHod.:p
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Saved only by Galtieri's miscalculation that invading the Malvinas would be a vote winner, it was but not for him, if he hadn't miscalculated so badly she'd have lost the 83 election and she'd have been consigned to the dustbin of history. All in my bumbling opinion of course.
 
Gordinho said:
Saved only by Galtieri's miscalculation that invading the Malvinas would be a vote winner, it was but not for him, if he hadn't miscalculated so badly she'd have lost the 83 election and she'd have been consigned to the dustbin of history. All in my bumbling opinion of course.
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Falklands.
 
Gordinho said:
Galtieri invaded the Malvinas.
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I remember reading in a history book that a royal navy captain John Strong (I think) made the first "recorded" landing on the then uninhabited islands in 1690, and named them after his employer Lord Falkland.

So even back in the 17th century it had its name. Not sure why your referring to them in its lefty/argentinian name.
 
BushHillSpurs said:
I remember reading in a history book that a royal navy captain John Strong (I think) made the first "recorded" landing on the then uninhabited islands in 1690, and named them after his employer Lord Falkland.

So even back in the 17th century it had its name. Not sure why your referring to them in its lefty/argentinian name.
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Do a little joined up thinking and consider why I referred to it as the Malvinas rather than knee jerking.

Here's a clue; Derry/Londonderry.
 
scaramanga said:
Derry's just shorthand for the correct name of Londonderry right? ;)
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There's never a steel hat emoticon when you need one :)
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I shall be voting UKIP next election and so will the other 4 members of my family.

Not a protest vote. I like the leadership and some of the policies above other parties.

Labour and Conservatives (the later being my usual vote) have no defined leadership and are like school children constantly bickering and passing the blame to eachother for their failings.

We need a new face in power and no before you say it, Nick Clegg does not fit the bill. He can't even force his stance against a joint coalition so GHod knows how far he will be willing to bend over for other countries and their policies.

UKIP all the way.

PS I love the way Cameron has promised a refurendum on Europe during the time another party are going to be in power. No forgetting the time before he was elected he promised the same thing. Shows the true side to him, someone willing to say anything to win the people and to get elected but once there fails to deliver the promises he made. Trust Mr Cameron, people never forget.
 
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spursman17 said:
I shall be voting UKIP next election and so will the other 4 members of my family.

Not a protest vote. I like the leadership and some of the policies above other parties.

Labour and Conservatives (the later being my usual vote) have no defined leadership and are like school children constantly bickering and passing the blame to eachother for their failings.

We need a new face in power and no before you say it, Nick Clegg does not fit the bill. He can't even force his stance against a joint coalition so GHod knows how far he will be willing to bend over for other countries and their policies.

UKIP all the way.

PS I love the way Cameron has promised a refurendum on Europe during the time another party are going to be in power. No forgetting the time before he was elected he promised the same thing. Shows the true side to him, someone willing to say anything to win the people and to get elected but once there fails to deliver the promises he made. Trust Mr Cameron, people never forget.
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I don't like Cameron myself but that's by the by in this instance, I sincerely believe every politician will do exactly what Cameron has done to climb the greasy pole.

On a side note, how long does any government have in power before they stop blaming the previous party?

Should any party seeking power automatically bar themselves from blaming the previous government for the problems they face if they actively sought to run the country? Or in other words, you said you knew what the job entailed, get on with it.
 
spursman17 said:
PS I love the way Cameron has promised a refurendum on Europe during the time another party are going to be in power. No forgetting the time before he was elected he promised the same thing. Shows the true side to him, someone willing to say anything to win the people and to get elected but once there fails to deliver the promises he made. Trust Mr Cameron, people never forget.
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Im interested, please can you give me a link to quotes where he promised a referendum on EU membership in this parliament? I don't remember him ever saying such a thing.

I actually think Cameron has done as well as he could be expected to in keeping to his manifesto promises considering he's in a coalition. Economically he said there would be cuts and he's done that. The fact is that he didn't get an overall majority, so obviously he has had to make concessions to the Lib Dems in terms of policy. You can't expect a Tory PM to implement a full Tory manifesto in a coalition government.
 
Gordinho said:
Should any party seeking power automatically bar themselves from blaming the previous government for the problems they face if they actively sought to run the country? Or in other words, you said you knew what the job entailed, get on with it.
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I agree in part with this, but when the opposition uses the economy as a stick to beat the government with, it's only logical to point out that it was in quite a mess when they inherited it.
 
Richie said:
I agree in part with this, but when the opposition uses the economy as a stick to beat the government with, it's only logical to point out that it was in quite a mess when they inherited it.
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Perhaps politicians could come to an agreement not to do this in future. :ross:
 
Keep it up lads. Let's continue the trend of splitting the right wing vote and Labour will be odds on for the next election. Hurrah!!!!!!!

:lol:
 
Why on earth would you support that pile of brick party which ruined this whole country?

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Unless you are;
- An immigrant
- Scottish
- a lazy workshy scrounger
- Bob Crow
 
Some interesting articles (some vs, mostly for considering how right this board leans and in the interest of providing an alternate view) on the EU and the UK. Have a quick read if you have time.

http://www.euromove.org.uk/index.php?id=15296
http://www.euromove.org.uk/index.php?id=17942
http://www.independent.co.uk/voices...bership-are-no-longer-compelling-8433996.html
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...enefits-of-staying-in-the-European-Union.html
http://blogs.lse.ac.uk/europpblog/2012/11/19/eu-membership-uk-ippr-report/
http://webarchive.nationalarchives.gov.uk/+/bis.gov.uk/policies/europe/benefits-of-eu-embership
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jan/17/reality-britain-relationship-with-eu
http://www.123helpme.com/view.asp?id=150248
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-21269658
http://www.euractiv.com/uk-europe/eu-membership-mean-uk-analysis-518169
http://www.brugesgroup.com/eu/the-b...ip-are-self-evident-aren-they.html?keyword=15
http://www.hm-treasury.gov.uk/d/foi_eumembership_literaturereview.pdf
http://blogs.fco.gov.uk/davidlidington/2012/10/15/20-years-of-the-single-market/
http://grahnlaw.blogs.fi/2012/09/18/uk-democracy-and-economy-ruined-by-eu-say-some-14828265/
http://www.europarl.org.uk/ressource/static/files/2012eutrade.pdf
http://blogs.channel4.com/factcheck...-to-the-economy-if-we-pull-out-of-the-eu/8376
http://www.europarl.org.uk/ressource/static/files/cs37.pdf
http://www.europarl.org.uk/ressource/static/files/upldbook33pdf.pdf

Some of these are actual policy papers so I apologise for the length but most of them are short enough to have a quick read over.

And a quick one about the ECHR considering some of the hysteria and lies peddled about it in this country (the cat story etc)

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...530823473060":"news.reads"}&action_ref_map=[]

But fundamentally for me, this whole thing has reached a hysterical fever pitch. A referendum in the UK actually means little, its effectively a huge opinion poll (though politically I guess a PM probably wouldn't be able to ignore if if he intended on lasting more than 4 years). People talk about the EU as if leaving it was the most obvious thing ever but our politicans of all shades have stayed in for decades. That isnt a coincidence.

But if we have the referendum, I wonder how people will make their decisions? Based on a comprehensive and educated analysis of the political, economic and cultural effect membership has on the UK? If so, great, whichever way you vote. Or are people going to vote based on the fact there's a few too many Poles in the area or on a few articles in the papers about how the EU or HR court are taking over? If so, not so great?

And will the vote depend on economic circumstances? People become more nationalistic, more suspicious of the 'other' when times are hard. It is easy to currently blame all our problems on the EU, on Eastern European migrants etc. If we have the referendum tomorrow, will the results be different from results in 5 years time, when the economy might have picked up again and people have forgotten about the EU?

As for UKIP, I've said before that I'd take them far more seriously if they actually believed what they said, which is that they're not a one issue party? You want to not become a one issue party? Don't come back to the same issue with every single question you're asked. It is boring. They're also not going to get anywhere because of how our political system works. Max achievements in the next general election is winning a couple of seats and taking away votes from the tories to allow Labour and the Lib Dems. That is unfortunately how our political system works.
 
Voters have got to show these careerist politicians who is boss. They have altered the fabric of our society to the permanent detriment of those very voters who thought these people would protect their interests.

Europe is even less democratic than the UK and for that reason alone we should leave.

Reset the system and get some honourable civilised people to represent us.
 
johnola said:
Voters have got to show these careerist politicians who is boss. They have altered the fabric of our society to the permanent detriment of those very voters who thought these people would protect their interests.

Europe is even less democratic than the UK and for that reason alone we should leave.

Reset the system and get some honourable civilised people to represent us.
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:ross::ross:
 
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