Also nobody is suggesting that levy or the coaching staff don't want to win domestic trophies.
Just they are not the priority. Which is pobably the same for the other big 6 clubs at the beginning of the season.
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Club mentality - domestic cups
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Also nobody is suggesting that levy or the coaching staff don't want to win domestic trophies.
Just they are not the priority. Which is pobably the same for the other big 6 clubs at the beginning of the season.
lurker of old
Wilson Palacios
fudging hurts and our lack of trophies hurts. But that's football and I don't think our attitude to domestic cup competitions has been a problem over the years.
Conte can't have it both ways. He can't say the cup matters and then out out a team with so many changes. It's one or the other. To say "We'd like to win and be in the quarters but it isn't a priority" is insulting flimflam. All round our stadium it says "The game is about glory". Glory equates to winning, and as we've never challenged consistently for the League, wining at Spurs was all about the cups -it was what once made us a great club. Now? Mediocre performance in cups. Winning teams win consistently, so I won't be at all surprised if we lose on Saturday, in which case, what is the roulette/rotation for?
For me Conte's team selection is a kick in the teeth for what matters to the fans, and is completely counter-productive.
Conte can't have it both ways. He can't say the cup matters and then out out a team with so many changes. It's one or the other. To say "We'd like to win and be in the quarters but it isn't a priority" is insulting flimflam. All round our stadium it says "The game is about glory". Glory equates to winning, and as we've never challenged consistently for the League, wining at Spurs was all about the cups -it was what once made us a great club. Now? Mediocre performance in cups. Winning teams win consistently, so I won't be at all surprised if we lose on Saturday, in which case, what is the roulette/rotation for?
For me Conte's team selection is a kick in the teeth for what matters to the fans, and is completely counter-productive.
Finney Is Back
Luka Modric
The timing of the sacking absolutely tells us that it was because he was going to rest players for the PL game to give the best possible chance to win the cup final.
It's not conte. It's not levy. It is how fudged football is. Sheffield utd put out a weakened squad. Why? Not because of illness, that was bs. Because finishing 2nd will get them promoted to the prem.
You want improvements to the squad? That costs money. You want to keep kane? That costs money. We aren't owned by oligarchs. Cl is where the money is.
Baleforce
Ron Henry
Or he kicked off about the ESL?
Baleforce
Ron Henry
Thats still true, if you replace Europe, with, The Champions League
Why would he? Sure mendez was somehow involved. Probably supplying coke and lap dancers while they were having the meetings.
We could survive. Chelsea are going to have to do a lot of work in the summer if they don't get it. Especially if they sack potter. They've already asked the prem if they can be let off ffp due to roman being sanctioned.
Baleforce
Ron Henry
My point is we don’t know what got him sacked, Levy interfering in team selections seems as equally unlikely imo.
Yes it's rumour, but not equally unlikely.
Grays_1890
Colin Calderwood
So does our disastrous form at the time and getting shleped by wormwood scrubs XI but alas people can believe twitter rumours if they like
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So you are saying our league form was more important than a cup final?
Grays_1890
Colin Calderwood
No I'm saying losing 5 out of 6 and getting binned out of Europe against a managerless team and his turgid style of football was enough to get binned...
That and being an absolutely massive cnut
Good try though
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Yes the form was pants. The football wasn't pants. But none of us expected him to get sacked when he did.
I guess that means the FA Cup isn't a priority for any big club as they all rotate in the early rounds
While I don't disagree that it's about winning, for me it's about mounting a serious challenge and not just shafting the fans to line one's pockets. A league cup would be great, FA cup even better, but playing in the CL final was magic. No we didn't win, but just being in the final where each and every team in all of Europe would love to be and some spend billions to get to, that made me proud. That was glory for me.
But mounting a challenge isn't about trying to win everything, it's about giving your best where it counts. Right now we are not title challengers and even less so CL final material. So to take the domestic cups seriously, that's the least we could do in my book. This was disappointing. If everything is about getting top 4 to be able to pay the wages of players whose only goal is to get top 4 and rinse and repeat, what's the point?
But mounting a challenge isn't about trying to win everything, it's about giving your best where it counts. Right now we are not title challengers and even less so CL final material. So to take the domestic cups seriously, that's the least we could do in my book. This was disappointing. If everything is about getting top 4 to be able to pay the wages of players whose only goal is to get top 4 and rinse and repeat, what's the point?
Bedfordspurs
Martin Peters
Last night counted
Well should have counted
Going out earlier rounds with a mixed team can happen
But at this stage we should have taken it much more serious and pkayed a first 11 to start with
I should have said "the" priority. But yes.
Teams want to do well in every competition and will rotate. But will prioritise. The fa cup is not as important as the league or the champions league. It's just the way it is.
Exactly. An FA cup is the best we could realistically hope for this season, and we are in no position to look down on that trophy.