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American politics

As if the US election wasn't a big enough freak show already, they're having some kind of gala dinner for the rich/self important:

https://twitter.com/x/status/789275505006616576
https://twitter.com/x/status/789275105511759872

Someone got the best seat in the house:

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at this rate even if only the women Trump has sexually assaulted vote for Clinton she'll still win confortably

they do the Al Smith dinner before each election, its normally a light hearted fundraiser for homeless kids
 
Up until now, I have viewed Dumph as something of a buffoon, you know...a bit like Boris Johnson. Not somebody who you would really take at all seriously if you were switched on politically. However, this man has entered very dangerous territory by saying he would not accept the result. Even Al Gore, who had a Prima Facie case that his opponent's brother (Jed Bush) had rigged the result in Florida accepted the umpire's decision. This right wing taco is really playing with fire and could activate some real RWNJ's.
 
Gilzeantoscore said:
Up until now, I have viewed Dumph as something of a buffoon, you know...a bit like Boris Johnson. Not somebody who you would really take at all seriously if you were switched on politically. However, this man has entered very dangerous territory by saying he would not accept the result. Even Al Gore, who had a Prima Facie case that his opponent's brother (Jed Bush) had rigged the result in Florida accepted the umpire's decision. This right wing taco is really playing with fire and could activate some real RWNJ's.
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Our "buffoon" is now foreign secretary :eek:

The US "buffoon" is a very dangerous and divisive gobbrick. He is stirring up a lot of zombie like right wing loony groups!
 
I didn't see the last debate, not much changed then really?

I'm not even a yank and I'll be glad when it's over!
 
Gilzeantoscore said:
Up until now, I have viewed Dumph as something of a buffoon, you know...a bit like Boris Johnson. Not somebody who you would really take at all seriously if you were switched on politically. However, this man has entered very dangerous territory by saying he would not accept the result. Even Al Gore, who had a Prima Facie case that his opponent's brother (Jed Bush) had rigged the result in Florida accepted the umpire's decision. This right wing taco is really playing with fire and could activate some real RWNJ's.
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That didn't happen.

If you can control your aversion to facts, there's a good breakdown here:

http://openargs.com/oa2-the-2000-election-neverforget-part-1/
http://openargs.com/oa3-bush-v-gore-and-the-2000-election-part-2/
http://openargs.com/oa4-the-2000-election-neverforget-part-3/
http://openargs.com/oa5-bush-v-gore-and-the-2000-election-part-4/
 
the dza said:
I didn't see the last debate, not much changed then really?

I'm not even a yank and I'll be glad when it's over!
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I didn't see the last debate either. But on Thursday morning I found myself searching the BBC website to see what had happened. Not because I was wanted to learn the intracicies of the political debate ( in which I would normally have a passing interest) but because I wanted to see (rubber neck) what new controversies Trump had delivered. I realise that doesn't put me in a particularly good light, but I bet I am far from the only one. It is a sad indictment that the election process of the world's most powerful leader has become a total car crash.
 
scaramanga said:
That didn't happen.

If you can control your aversion to facts, there's a good breakdown here:

http://openargs.com/oa2-the-2000-election-neverforget-part-1/
http://openargs.com/oa3-bush-v-gore-and-the-2000-election-part-2/
http://openargs.com/oa4-the-2000-election-neverforget-part-3/
http://openargs.com/oa5-bush-v-gore-and-the-2000-election-part-4/
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Thanks for those links. I only read one and it supported my interpretation. The US have no independent electoral commission and federal votes are in the hands of state instrumentalities. So in reality, the result was totally controlled by George W'S brother, Jeb Bush the governor of Florida. Yeah, I'd be happy with that... nothing to see here....no conflict of interest.....now where did those votes go?
 
Gilzeantoscore said:
Thanks for those links. I only read one and it supported my interpretation. The US have no independent electoral commission and federal votes are in the hands of state instrumentalities. So in reality, the result was totally controlled by George W'S brother, Jeb Bush the governor of Florida. Yeah, I'd be happy with that... nothing to see here....no conflict of interest.....now where did those votes go?
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The decision was made by the US Supreme Court.

Last time I checked, Jeb Bush wasn't even sitting, let alone in control of it.
 
So according to Scara if he ran against me in an election, I won, but the election was disputed by him, he would be happy for my mates to handle all the votes and other associated evidence. As I stated before, conflict of interest?
 
Gilzeantoscore said:
No but he had possession of the votes! He had the evidence.
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No he didn't.

US elections are run by volunteers, usually a fairly even mix of red and blue. The counties that were being asked for recounts were heavily Democrat leaning ones, so if anything, there would have been more Democrats involved in the process.
 
scaramanga said:
No he didn't.

US elections are run by volunteers, usually a fairly even mix of red and blue. The counties that were being asked for recounts were heavily Democrat leaning ones, so if anything, there would have been more Democrats involved in the process.
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All that may be so, but crucially, the administration of elections is a state responsibility. Volunteers do not control the ballot papers, that is handled by Florida state appointed electoral officials.
 
Gilzeantoscore said:
All that may be so, but crucially, the administration of elections is a state responsibility. Volunteers do not control the ballot papers, that is handled by Florida state appointed electoral officials.
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Are you suggesting the voting papers were tampered with or intentionally miscounted?

Because that's something that not even the most swivel-eyed, jet fuel can't melt steel beams, weirdos have been suggesting.
 
scaramanga said:
Are you suggesting the voting papers were tampered with or intentionally miscounted?

Because that's something that not even the most swivel-eyed, jet fuel can't melt steel beams, weirdos have been suggesting.
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I'm saying that having your brother in charge of an electoral process represents a huge conflict of interest. Pretty obvious really.
 
monkeybarry said:
So, still four weeks appx until until voting day.

Another week and a half, maybe two, for Trump sexual allegations to die down I reckon.

I wonder what Trump has on Hillary that will be used in the last two weeks to create a negative hysteria around her just as people step to the ballot box? (Or can't bring themselves to vote for either)

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Jurgen the German said:
This election is yet another reminder of just how many thicker than two short planks, racist, redneck hillbillies there still are in Murica. And I love Americans! This election shouldn't even be close. If only Obama or Bill Clinton were in the race instead of Hilary I'm sure it would be far more one sided than it is.
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If only Kasich or Similar were in the race instead of,Trump. Hillary Clinton wouldn't stand a chance.
 
Yermiyahu said:
If only Kasich or Similar were in the race instead of,Trump. Hillary Clinton wouldn't stand a chance.
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completely disagree with this, the republican party as we know it is defunct, their nominee isn't really a republican, he appeals to the general electorate as he is anti establishment and speaks his mind, he has a very solid base,
kasich only won the state in the nominee process where has was governor, he is a better candidate than trump but not nowhere as electable or appealing to the white, uneducated working class, the republicans will lose but they
have fielded the best candidate they could have.
 
Mr_B said:
completely disagree with this, the republican party as we know it is defunct, their nominee isn't really a republican, he appeals to the general electorate as he is anti establishment and speaks his mind, he has a very solid base,
kasich only won the state in the nominee process where has was governor, he is a better candidate than trump but not nowhere as electable or appealing to the white, uneducated working class, the republicans will lose but they
have fielded the best candidate they could have.
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We will have to agree to disagree on this. Personally I won't vote for either of them. My first vote as an American citizen and what an appalling choice.
 
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