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New England manager = Roy Hodgson

Whoopie do a manager being a bit coy on his managerial doings ..........whats new,if harry is the only one doing this and that then im a chinaman...lol....

Why don't people question why roy has had so many clubs,and flitered around europe every year or so..........is he hiding something,is he declaring all his earnings in those relevant countries,is he paying his taxes properly............see anyone can start rumours and hear say........

who knows whats going to happen to harry by the end of the month,or in a year or so.....if he doesn't get champs league football he could be out,thats football,harry moved on but im still a spurs supporter,next manager please..........i could say someone been interviewed for the spurs job already,someone near where i live............all rumours ain't it......
 
I'm really not sure what Redknapp should have said/done during all this mate. He was in limbo really. I don't think he knew for definite that he would take the England job (although Im sure was leaning that way) as its clear he enjoys it here. This combined with the fact he was never offered the job, what more could he of said? He couldn't come out and say he's definitely staying with Spurs because he was obviously attracted to the England job whether he'd end up accepting or not. He consistently said I havent been in contact with anyone at the FA, I've got a job to do at Spurs and that's all I'm focusing on etc

Yes, results during this period would suggest it's had an affect. But is that Redknapps doing? Could it not be the media who have done nothing but build up Harry for England, and this uncertainty possibly/probably has had some sort of affect on the players. I personally don't blame Redknapp for this....

Yes, undoubtedly the media had a massive imact on this (part of the reason I mentioned those interviews earlier) although he kept feeding them fuel in many instance. I also felt he could have killed all flimflam speculation by confirming he's currently Tottenham's manager and will NOT discuss any of this until end of the season, etc. Could have happened the day after Saudi Sportswashing Machine's game, etc.
 
If it suits an agenda or opinion, yes. If you actually take it for the bitter rant it is? Then no. It's too emotional and too biased. It's clear the author has an axe to grind.

But there are number of factual statements / observations in there too

I'd say it's reasonably objective to the neutral reader
 
Daniel got this one wrong

Harry made Samba prime target because of the 10 goals he'd bully from corners and free kicks

He begged Levy for samba, because of the aggression and power he would inject into our box.

Unfortunately for Harry, he knew nothing about Blackburn's Russian pay day

Shame really, because we would no longer dread the hundreds of corners generated by Bale and Lennon...

Wait a minute you're having a go at Steff for making up a story yet you're passing of your version of the story as fact? very hypocritical.
 
But there are number of factual statements / observations in there too

I'd say it's reasonably objective to the neutral reader

Of course it is, its only the few fans who have got their tongue up Redknapps arse who can not see that.
 
But there are number of factual statements / observations in there too

I'd say it's reasonably objective to the neutral reader
What,

“Oi Redknapp! Stick yer tongue out – you’ll look like a zip”, they chortled, “How about starching that number seven on yer shirt – give yer some backbone”, they laughed.

this?
 
I absolutely see the sense in your argument.
We absolutely do punch above our weight financially (helped enormously by the genial fool @ mansion who got the numbers wrong and gave us that HUGE sponsorship deal back in the day)...
...I just personally feel that we had a real chance this season to push to the next level (3rd locked in) and all it needed was a solid mentality...but again, I absolutely see your point and from your perspective, understand why you're satisfied with where we're at...I might disagree, but I can certainly see your perspective too mate...

Jesus Steff, could you have made that post sound any more patronising?
 
Yes, undoubtedly the media had a massive imact on this (part of the reason I mentioned those interviews earlier) although he kept feeding them fuel in many instance. I also felt he could have killed all flimflam speculation by confirming he's currently Tottenham's manager and will NOT discuss any of this until end of the season, etc. Could have happened the day after Saudi Sportswashing Machine's game, etc.

Him not discussing it wouldn't of made the media speculate any less but I accept what you're saying - I just don't see he's really done anything wrong.

He does have his shortcomings for sure but I don't blame him for the England debacle....
 
Maybe - but he quotes proper sources.

Obviously an inconvenient truth from your perspective.

My perspective is a balanced one as far as I am concerned. Let me clarify it for you from both a footballing point of view and my view on Redknapp. Feel free to use this against me in the future....

Football is a simple game. The more scientific or complex a Manager makes it, the greater the chance the team will fail.

The tactics, system, style a Manager users doesn't have anywhere near as much weight to success as most people assume. It's mainly about the players and their ability.

What the Manager does need to do to make a team successful is actually pretty simple. Play players in their natural positions and ensure the team balance/blend is correct (regardless of formation). For example, this for me is where Redknapp went wrong against Norwich (and where Comolli went wrong during his entire stay at Spurs). It doesn't matter what system you play, you have to have a defensive midfielder in central midfield. Ideally a disciplined one who will sacrifice personal glory for the good of the team, e.g. stay behind the ball and keep shape. Without one the whole balance of the team goes to brick.

Confidence plays a big part in how players play. That confidence can come from many minor things (the Manager, a team mate, a new contract etc) but in most cases significant confidence is self fulfilling and comes from good performances and winning. When people say that Manager X has failed to motivate Player X, it's clear they don't understand the level at which these guys are playing. This isn't Sunday morning football where a few encouraging words can work wonders on a player. These guys by their very nature are ultra motivated and competitive. A few words from a Manager usually makes bugger all difference. Their confidence comes from how they are feeling about their own form and ability. The second biggest giver (and taker) of confidence is the crowd. This is why teams have home advantage.

I said from the season start, and I stick by it now, Chelsea have the best Premiership team (and second best squad). Emirates Marketing Project have the second best team, and best squad. They should be comfortably leading the title race. The reason they are notis because Fergie has done amazing things with a not so good (although still the 3rd best team and squad in the country) Utd team, and because City and Chelsea have royally made life hard work for themselves this season.

Redknapp is a simple man. He isn't very intelligent, and engages mouth before brain.

Not my perception but from people I know who know him, Redknapp is a very generous man who will talk to anyone about anything. He is very personable and most people who get to know him like him a lot. He is also very emotional and also has low self esteem and this is why he seems to feel the need to over justify every opinion he has.

Redknapp is an excellent football manager. Almost certainly the best English manager around at the moment, and has been since Venables gave up regular club management.

Redknapp is one of the best managers in the Premiership, and we don't give him enough credit. Fergie and Wenger are definitely superior to him. It's entirely possible that Redknapp is the 3rd best in the country. I am personally not a fan of Mancini. Dalglish is a two time title winner but is clearly struggling with a Liverpool team that is a lot better than they're performing. The likes of Pardew, Rodgers, Lambert may potentially be better in the future or could be a Mike Walker/George Burley type scenario. Di Matteo is doing well at Chelsea, but Avram Grant did better (comparitive to the season he took over) than Mourinho and no one sane is going to say Grant is a better Manager! I did like Di Matteo at WBA though, and he is doing an excellent job. The two Premiership Managers that I am more confident in saying MAY be better than Redknapp are Moyes & O'Neill. But until a more competitive team gives them a chance (like Spurs did with Redknapp) it's impossible to tell.

Spurs have the 4th/5th best team/squad in the country. It's a very close run thing against Arsenal, and yes Wenger's superiority over Redknapp (plus the fact he has had years to sculpt that side and team ethos) does give Arsenal an advantage.

We are where we should be in the Premiership. It's not a disappointing season to anyone who has realistic expectations.

It doesn't matter if you're 20pts clear or 20pts behind at the halfway stage of a season. The only thing that matters is the pts tally after 38 games. Everything else is just eschewed form guides that don't take into consideration injuries, the form of the opposition, the quality of the opposition etc. so needs to be taken with a very large dose of salt.
 
Wait a minute you're having a go at Steff for making up a story yet you're passing of your version of the story as fact? very hypocritical.

KD, all you have to do is add "I have information that I cannot share" in the middle of a post, and you can post drivel as ITK

(Several posters have resorted to this tactic; I am but a mere apprentice in the art of 'bull brick')

Here are my previous efforts

http://www.glory-glory.co.uk/showthread.php?1523-Money-Do-we-have-it&p=95613#post95613

http://www.glory-glory.co.uk/showthread.php?1468-Redknapp-just-said-on-SSN&p=92120#post92120

Personally, I think I'm getting more subtle, by peppering my 'horse brick' with a few names and facts.
 
What,

“Oi Redknapp! Stick yer tongue out – you’ll look like a zip”, they chortled, “How about starching that number seven on yer shirt – give yer some backbone”, they laughed.

this?

Precisely, how many unfounded insults do you hear every match shouted out by ignorant tinkled up bell ends? Harry Redknapp was a player who played 25-40 games a season for WHU back in the 60s, as a winger against some of the dirties fullbacks the game has ever known. To hear brick like that would have been commonplace, to some kid who wouldn't have known the difference between right and wrong it might have made an impression.

Utter gonad*s, and an article fed by bitterness and rancour - precisely the kind of meat and drink to the simple minded, "I'm on a mission to destroy the club by campaigning against the manager" for their own petty agendas.

If it wasn't for the fact that I actually care what happens to the club, it would almost be worth having the anti Harry clubs wishes granted, so we can get some hapless "flavour of the month" manager in, only to feck around mid table for the next 10 seasons, so I can give it the big "I knew this would happen" "only a fool couldn't have seen this coming" "I predicted this" and of course "I told you so, you wouldn't listen."

And why shouldn't I? Its all I hear on this medium.
 
Well what a surprise. You trawling the sewer of anti Harry sentiment that is Kumb.

I don't think I have ever read an article so heavily laced with the word agenda in my life. A sentiment that by osmosis has been transferred to weak minded Spurs supporters.

Care to talk about the specific parts of teh article you think are gonad*s?

Thought not.

And it was on Newsnow......I don't 'trawl' KUMB as a matter of course.
 
Precisely, how many unfounded insults do you hear every match shouted out by ignorant tinkled up bell ends? Harry Redknapp was a player who played 25-40 games a season for WHU back in the 60s, as a winger against some of the dirties fullbacks the game has ever known. To hear brick like that would have been commonplace, to some kid who wouldn't have known the difference between right and wrong it might have made an impression.

Utter gonad*s, and an article fed by bitterness and rancour - precisely the kind of meat and drink to the simple minded, "I'm on a mission to destroy the club by campaigning against the manager" for their own petty agendas.

If it wasn't for the fact that I actually care what happens to the club, it would almost be worth having the anti Harry clubs wishes granted, so we can get some hapless "flavour of the month" manager in, only to feck around mid table for the next 10 seasons, so I can give it the big "I knew this would happen" "only a fool couldn't have seen this coming" "I predicted this" and of course "I told you so, you wouldn't listen."

And why shouldn't I? Its all I hear on this medium.

Yes - I'm on a mission to destroy the club.

:tumbleweed:
 
Will be hard to argue with that MK - I agree with almost every word....except the bizarre assertion that Chelsea have the best team in the country! But that's your thing.

The Harry article is so obviously led by agenda. They pick out one game to apparently show his tactical ineptitude. His tactics were good enough to get us 4th, to beat Milan in the San Siro etc...I think he knows just enough about them that we can get by. But even if he does tend to delegate and ask the advice of those around him on tactics...so flipping what? It's good that he shows an appreciation of other's opinions, and recognises that he doesn't know it all. The fact that he has been so willing to take on board other's opinions is probably why he, as an 'old school dinosaur' has managed to last as long in the modern game as he has.

Other than that...what do they really get at him for? Leaving his previous clubs in debt? (It's their chairman's fault they weren't as strong as Levy on this, I'll bet that even when Harry does leave us we won't be in a West Ham or Portsmouth situation...or anywhere near it) Giving one journo a different story from the other? The horror!
 
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Care to talk about the specific parts of teh article you think are gonad*s?

Thought not.

And it was on Newsnow......I don't 'trawl' KUMB as a matter of course.

You keep going on about this article you posted, but its just full of opinion - no facts at all. It's from KUMB, just about everyone associated with West Ham don't like him. I'm not even sure what posting that blog is meant to prove for you anyway, the chairman didn't agree with Redknapps tactics.....so what? He employed the guy and as far as I'm aware took them to their highest ever position in the PL....
 
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