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MGTOW It is our future guys, rise up and spread the word.

Equality should be the aim.

Some feminists definitely take it too far. Not at all a good reason for men's rights groups to do the same.

Some way to go still to reach equality, but if you're unhappy with your life as a man or a woman at this time in a modern developed country it's not the fault of the other gender as a group.
 
What exactly is the problem? In which areas of life do you feel limited by radical feminism? I couldn't find anything but semi abstract masculine self help flimflam on the link posted in the first post.

Even with the radical feminists going "too far" - how exactly are they a problem to you?

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Daisuk said:
What exactly is the problem? In which areas of life do you feel limited by radical feminism? I couldn't find anything but semi abstract masculine self help hogwash on the link posted in the first post.

Even with the radical feminists going "too far" - how exactly are they a problem to you?
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I do believe there are issues of equality that on average harm men more than women that do not get enough attention. In part because of those on the radical side of feminism who do not see feminism as a battle for equality. And because the fight for gender equality is still seen as the feminist fight, meaning for women to get equality instead of equality across the board.

These issues include:
-Boys and men doing worse in schools than girls and women. Systematically in many countries. This should be a huge issue.
-Men being vastly over represented in prison populations.
-Men being forced into national service in many countries around the world when women are not.
-The gender paradox of suicidal behavior with men completing suicides a lot more often than women despite making fewer attempts.

These are issues that would be huge gender equality issues for feminists/those fighting for gender equality if women were getting the worst of it.

Unfortunately most men's right groups are at least as far from the right answer as most radical feminist groups.
 
Daisuk said:
What exactly is the problem? In which areas of life do you feel limited by radical feminism? I couldn't find anything but semi abstract masculine self help hogwash on the link posted in the first post.

Even with the radical feminists going "too far" - how exactly are they a problem to you?

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I want to be a victim, I am hedging my bets on Labour one day getting back into office, if I am a victim then I will get free money from them and I like free money.

I could pretend to convert to Islam, the muslims do seem to be getting picked on a bit these days, the gay thing, well I love the gays and do not think they are persecuted any more. I have a Ray Winstone accent so I can play up to the whole working class thing about being left behind except that does not go with my centre right politics. This said despite my centre right politics I have become immersed in our culture of victim hood.
I am a man and it seems the easiest go to for me. I am a victim and I want to march down the street and make a spectacle of myself and start a campaign that is of no interest to the majority but gets me on t.v. and gets me special attention.
 
braineclipse said:
I do believe there are issues of equality that on average harm men more than women that do not get enough attention. In part because of those on the radical side of feminism who do not see feminism as a battle for equality. And because the fight for gender equality is still seen as the feminist fight, meaning for women to get equality instead of equality across the board.

These issues include:
-Boys and men doing worse in schools than girls and women. Systematically in many countries. This should be a huge issue.
-Men being vastly over represented in prison populations.
-Men being forced into national service in many countries around the world when women are not.
-The gender paradox of suicidal behavior with men completing suicides a lot more often than women despite making fewer attempts.

These are issues that would be huge gender equality issues for feminists/those fighting for gender equality if women were getting the worst of it.

Unfortunately most men's right groups are at least as far from the right answer as most radical feminist groups.
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That is actually a good post and I will forward it to MGTOW perhaps we could have you as a guest speaker at a rally?

I am thinking of holding one in the Red Lion in Shoreham By Sea, but Fred the landlord said it cant be this weekend as the is a stag do, shame would have been a captive audience.
 
Danishfurniturelover said:
That is actually a good post and I will forward it to MGTOW perhaps we could have you as a guest speaker at a rally?

I am thinking of holding one in the Red Lion in Shoreham By Sea, but Fred the landlord said it cant be this weekend as the is a stag do, shame would have been a captive audience.
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I would rather be the neckbeard at a radical feminist meeting shouting "can someone make me a sandwich". Quite possibly we agree on that, though for somewhat different reasons ;) (not quite been keeping track of your kinks and desires)
 
braineclipse said:
I do believe there are issues of equality that on average harm men more than women that do not get enough attention. In part because of those on the radical side of feminism who do not see feminism as a battle for equality. And because the fight for gender equality is still seen as the feminist fight, meaning for women to get equality instead of equality across the board.

These issues include:
-Boys and men doing worse in schools than girls and women. Systematically in many countries. This should be a huge issue.
-Men being vastly over represented in prison populations.
-Men being forced into national service in many countries around the world when women are not.
-The gender paradox of suicidal behavior with men completing suicides a lot more often than women despite making fewer attempts.

These are issues that would be huge gender equality issues for feminists/those fighting for gender equality if women were getting the worst of it.

Unfortunately most men's right groups are at least as far from the right answer as most radical feminist groups.
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By all means, these are all good points, and would be worth discussing. And completely agree with the bolded part.
 
If "feminists" want genuine cross gender support they need to change the narrative and image to "equalitist"

Im not dismissing the feminist movement, it was well needed and very effective.
But we are on a relatively even playing field for gender now - there are still gender differenced views, but many of these are "class" and education based..... things that can be fought together by "generations with roosters and clams" (tm)
 
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