milo
Jack L. Jones
Do you think that supports expectations are realistic and that they have sufficient information and knowledge to base them on?
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Andre Villas-Boas - Head Coach
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Do you think that supports expectations are realistic and that they have sufficient information and knowledge to base them on?
milo
Jack L. Jones
You seem to be having the same (or very similar) discussions across several thread. Why don't we move this discussion to the Levy transfer policy thread and let this one get back on topic?
Just in case anyone missed it. Why so many Spurs fans rate him so highly is completely beyond me. I hope he adapts to AVB's high line, but I have serious fears about it. I think he's a decent Prem LB. but he always makes me nervous.
Crawley
Board Legend
TBH, there are times the whole team make me nervous. Saturdays at 5.45pm mostly.
IF AVB hasn't been bashing down Levy's door and demanding a striker, I'm disappointed in him. Because it's been obvious from the time that Ade opted for the ACN we've needed one. In fact, it's been obvious from the way that Ade's been playing we've needed one.
We've still got one decent striker at the club in Clint, and all credit to Levy for that one, even though a lot of people didn't see him as a striker.
But one's not enough, nor is two, we need three.
I hope Obika can step up, but we cant rely on it.
We've still got one decent striker at the club in Clint, and all credit to Levy for that one, even though a lot of people didn't see him as a striker.
But one's not enough, nor is two, we need three.
I hope Obika can step up, but we cant rely on it.
Fair comment
A lot of what Spurs do makes me nervous, but BAE is right up there in the nerve jangling dept for me.
Spurs7891
Jermaine Jenas
Fair comment
Not so much as Livermore, surely. I think when he goes into tackles, 90% of the time that will be a freekick to the opponents.
Crawley
Board Legend
There are teams that would love this
Spurs7891
Jermaine Jenas
I am sure all the teams love playing against him.:lol:
thfcsteff
Terry Dyson
By request, posting this in (it's probably rightful) place...an interesting read. Note, it is an Op Ed piece as opposed to an 'authoritarian' one...
<<A good blog written by Dan Fitch on ESPN soccernet a couple of weeks ago...
<<Of all the qualities that Andre Villas-Boas has brought to Tottenham since becoming manager, it is the fact he has made the squad a meritocracy I find the most refreshing.
Under Harry Redknapp, you knew that when certain players were fit that they would be in the team. It's one of the reasons why Sandro's career stalled somewhat last season and Scott Parker eventually burned out.
Since AVB took charge this has changed. Now, if you play well when you're in the team, then the chances are that you will keep your place.
I was critical of the way Villas-Boas handled the arrival of Hugo Lloris, as he rotated the Frenchman and Brad Friedel, but I entirely support the fact that he didn't immediately drop the veteran goalkeeper, who was in fine form.
Kyle Naughton is another selection of the manager that I've criticised. I stand by the fact that he should never be played at left-back when he has a right-footed player in front of him on the left of midfield. However, since Gareth Bale returned to the team, Naughton has played well and it’s not a bad thing that Benoit Assou-Ekotto has been made to wait his turn.
I’m sure that BAE will eventually regain his place, but Spurs' results haven’t been affected in the interim and Naughton will have gained confidence for the show of faith. The youngster will have a big part to play this season, covering for both Kyle Walker and Assou-Ekotto when either is injured, or needs to be rested.
The centre of defence has seen Steven Caulker get plenty of chances and not necessarily get dropped when a more experienced player returns. Indeed, the centre-back with the most appearances for Tottenham is Michael Dawson and he started as fifth choice, despite being named as club captain.
Yet even though Spurs were clearly keen to sell Dawson in the summer and Villas-Boas seemed to have misgivings about the player, he too has been given a chance of redemption. Dawson is now a regular in the team again, having grabbed his chance to prove the Portuguese wrong.
Last season it really didn't matter what Jermain Defoe did on the pitch. Redknapp would always pick Emmanuel Adebayor and Rafael van der Vaart ahead of him if they were fit. This season Villas-Boas has kept Defoe in the team when he's scoring and it's translated into better form on the pitch.
If players think that it is impossible to change a manager's mind, they won’t give their all. That’s human nature. It seems at Spurs that everyone believes that hard work and performances on the pitch will be rewarded. That's a healthy situation.
It means that there's no 'them' and ‘us’ cliques, between the players that are in the manager’s plans and those that aren’t. Everyone pulls together in the right direction knowing that they have an equal chance to impress.
A lot of players and coming out and praising Villas-Boas. It genuinely seems like a happy camp. When you think of the newspaper headlines earlier this season, with the UK media clearly desperate to see a repeat of the scenes that accompanied AVB's spell at Chelsea, then it’s really quite laughable.
Perhaps Villas-Boas learned a hard lesson at Stamford Bridge and it will be Spurs who benefit. Some managers can get away with ruling by fear, for some it is better to be liked and respected. When the manager in question is not much older than the players, then the latter is the more sensible option.>>
<<A good blog written by Dan Fitch on ESPN soccernet a couple of weeks ago...
<<Of all the qualities that Andre Villas-Boas has brought to Tottenham since becoming manager, it is the fact he has made the squad a meritocracy I find the most refreshing.
Under Harry Redknapp, you knew that when certain players were fit that they would be in the team. It's one of the reasons why Sandro's career stalled somewhat last season and Scott Parker eventually burned out.
Since AVB took charge this has changed. Now, if you play well when you're in the team, then the chances are that you will keep your place.
I was critical of the way Villas-Boas handled the arrival of Hugo Lloris, as he rotated the Frenchman and Brad Friedel, but I entirely support the fact that he didn't immediately drop the veteran goalkeeper, who was in fine form.
Kyle Naughton is another selection of the manager that I've criticised. I stand by the fact that he should never be played at left-back when he has a right-footed player in front of him on the left of midfield. However, since Gareth Bale returned to the team, Naughton has played well and it’s not a bad thing that Benoit Assou-Ekotto has been made to wait his turn.
I’m sure that BAE will eventually regain his place, but Spurs' results haven’t been affected in the interim and Naughton will have gained confidence for the show of faith. The youngster will have a big part to play this season, covering for both Kyle Walker and Assou-Ekotto when either is injured, or needs to be rested.
The centre of defence has seen Steven Caulker get plenty of chances and not necessarily get dropped when a more experienced player returns. Indeed, the centre-back with the most appearances for Tottenham is Michael Dawson and he started as fifth choice, despite being named as club captain.
Yet even though Spurs were clearly keen to sell Dawson in the summer and Villas-Boas seemed to have misgivings about the player, he too has been given a chance of redemption. Dawson is now a regular in the team again, having grabbed his chance to prove the Portuguese wrong.
Last season it really didn't matter what Jermain Defoe did on the pitch. Redknapp would always pick Emmanuel Adebayor and Rafael van der Vaart ahead of him if they were fit. This season Villas-Boas has kept Defoe in the team when he's scoring and it's translated into better form on the pitch.
If players think that it is impossible to change a manager's mind, they won’t give their all. That’s human nature. It seems at Spurs that everyone believes that hard work and performances on the pitch will be rewarded. That's a healthy situation.
It means that there's no 'them' and ‘us’ cliques, between the players that are in the manager’s plans and those that aren’t. Everyone pulls together in the right direction knowing that they have an equal chance to impress.
A lot of players and coming out and praising Villas-Boas. It genuinely seems like a happy camp. When you think of the newspaper headlines earlier this season, with the UK media clearly desperate to see a repeat of the scenes that accompanied AVB's spell at Chelsea, then it’s really quite laughable.
Perhaps Villas-Boas learned a hard lesson at Stamford Bridge and it will be Spurs who benefit. Some managers can get away with ruling by fear, for some it is better to be liked and respected. When the manager in question is not much older than the players, then the latter is the more sensible option.>>
Crawley
Board Legend
Time to say goodbye.
After much deliberation, and based on majority views expressed recently in the "merged threads" thread, the mods have concluded that we are going to lock and move both the What next for Harry, and the AVB-Head coach threads into Classics.
There are many reasons behind this (apart from the stated desire of so many posters to get rid), but one of the main ones for the mods is the amount of in-board animosity these threads have created. It has, sadly, made this place a lot harder to moderate, and has even, created enemies amongst posters where before there were none.
Now, before we get accused of over-use of powers, stopping free speech and being Nazis, let me explain, we are NOT stopping you from talking about these subjects. We just feel a need to alter direction a little.
We know that other threads will spring up, with the same arguments probably repeated, but we also hope/expect them to take on different directions now. Especially, as far as the Harry thread is concerned, his time with us is now drifting into history and becomes less of a current topic.
Obviously, AVB is very current, but having listened to posters views, we feel that other "fresher " threads would now benefit from some of the insight into his methods.
You will all be able to read the original threads in Classics, to use as reference if required.
We know some of you will disagree with this move, and we understand that viewpoint, but as stated, this is an action based on the majority view.
Finally, please help us, and the board you use, to get back on track with positive and meaningful posts on subjects that interest you, without resorting to point-scoring arguments that take threads off topic.
This post will appear across both threads.
After much deliberation, and based on majority views expressed recently in the "merged threads" thread, the mods have concluded that we are going to lock and move both the What next for Harry, and the AVB-Head coach threads into Classics.
There are many reasons behind this (apart from the stated desire of so many posters to get rid), but one of the main ones for the mods is the amount of in-board animosity these threads have created. It has, sadly, made this place a lot harder to moderate, and has even, created enemies amongst posters where before there were none.
Now, before we get accused of over-use of powers, stopping free speech and being Nazis, let me explain, we are NOT stopping you from talking about these subjects. We just feel a need to alter direction a little.
We know that other threads will spring up, with the same arguments probably repeated, but we also hope/expect them to take on different directions now. Especially, as far as the Harry thread is concerned, his time with us is now drifting into history and becomes less of a current topic.
Obviously, AVB is very current, but having listened to posters views, we feel that other "fresher " threads would now benefit from some of the insight into his methods.
You will all be able to read the original threads in Classics, to use as reference if required.
We know some of you will disagree with this move, and we understand that viewpoint, but as stated, this is an action based on the majority view.
Finally, please help us, and the board you use, to get back on track with positive and meaningful posts on subjects that interest you, without resorting to point-scoring arguments that take threads off topic.
This post will appear across both threads.
Reggie_Mentalist
Jamie Redknapp
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/football/view/299954/
REAL MADRID have included Tottenham boss Andre Villas-Boas on their managerial shortlist.
Current boss Jose Mourinho is set to leave the Spanish champions this summer, after a number of high-profile fall-outs with his squad.
And although Real president Florentino Perez will not approach potential replacements until the end of the season, Bernebeu chiefs have already begun to draw up a list of candidates.
Top of the Spanish giant's wish-list are current PSG boss Carlo Ancelotti and Borussia Dortmund's Jurgen Klopp.
But, according to Spanish radio station COPE, Villas-Boas is also under consideration.
Despite suffering a dismal time at former club Chelsea, the 35-year-old has begun to recover his reputation as one of Europe's brightest coaching prospects.
Real will also be aware of Villas-Boas's relationship with striking sensation Falcao, from the pair's time at Porto together.
The La Liga giants are one of a number of clubs desperate to prise the Colombian away from Atletico Madrid at the end of the season.
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REAL MADRID have included Tottenham boss Andre Villas-Boas on their managerial shortlist.
Current boss Jose Mourinho is set to leave the Spanish champions this summer, after a number of high-profile fall-outs with his squad.
And although Real president Florentino Perez will not approach potential replacements until the end of the season, Bernebeu chiefs have already begun to draw up a list of candidates.
Top of the Spanish giant's wish-list are current PSG boss Carlo Ancelotti and Borussia Dortmund's Jurgen Klopp.
But, according to Spanish radio station COPE, Villas-Boas is also under consideration.
Despite suffering a dismal time at former club Chelsea, the 35-year-old has begun to recover his reputation as one of Europe's brightest coaching prospects.
Real will also be aware of Villas-Boas's relationship with striking sensation Falcao, from the pair's time at Porto together.
The La Liga giants are one of a number of clubs desperate to prise the Colombian away from Atletico Madrid at the end of the season.
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braineclipse
Willie Hall
Re: AVB On Reals Madrid's Short List For New Manager
Even if he got sacked at Real rather quickly he would still be able to find a job at a similar sized club to ours afterwards I think. His reputation would be helped more by being signed up by Real than it would be hurt by getting sacked.
Getting the sack at clubs like Chelsea and Real is more of a stamp of approval than anything it seems.
I think they will go for someone with a bigger profile though, and I hope they won't wish to tinkle off Levy any further if they ever want to get their hands on Bale.
Even if he got sacked at Real rather quickly he would still be able to find a job at a similar sized club to ours afterwards I think. His reputation would be helped more by being signed up by Real than it would be hurt by getting sacked.
Getting the sack at clubs like Chelsea and Real is more of a stamp of approval than anything it seems.
I think they will go for someone with a bigger profile though, and I hope they won't wish to tinkle off Levy any further if they ever want to get their hands on Bale.
chicken_badge
Gudni Bergsson
Re: AVB On Reals Madrid's Short List For New Manager
Out of interest, when was the last time a manager of ours left of their own accord?
Redknapp
Ramos
Jol
all sacked. Santini?
Before that, Graham, Hoddle, Gross, Francis?, Ardiles...
Venables left for England of his own accord?
I'm not including Pleats little caretaker roles.
But it looks like AVB would be a rarity in this!
Out of interest, when was the last time a manager of ours left of their own accord?
Redknapp
Ramos
Jol
all sacked. Santini?
Before that, Graham, Hoddle, Gross, Francis?, Ardiles...
Venables left for England of his own accord?
I'm not including Pleats little caretaker roles.
But it looks like AVB would be a rarity in this!
Essex Yid
Bobby Zamora
Re: AVB On Reals Madrid's Short List For New Manager
I'd like to hope he's not the sort of bloke who'd leave. Having taken a pretty big risk hiring him in the first place, with his reputation in tatters, if he were to leave after one season of doing well it would be shameful.
Also can't see him taking the risk. The pressure at Madrid would be 10X the pressure here. If he were to take a job like Madrid in the future, I'd like to think it'd be after a good 3/4 years work with us.
I'd like to hope he's not the sort of bloke who'd leave. Having taken a pretty big risk hiring him in the first place, with his reputation in tatters, if he were to leave after one season of doing well it would be shameful.
Also can't see him taking the risk. The pressure at Madrid would be 10X the pressure here. If he were to take a job like Madrid in the future, I'd like to think it'd be after a good 3/4 years work with us.
DHSF
Les Ferdinand
Re: AVB On Reals Madrid's Short List For New Manager
I think they just want to be Tottenham Hotspur
I think they just want to be Tottenham Hotspur