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Mykhailo Mudryk

BigChiv9 said:
Isn't the £75 million option just a question of Chelsea protecting themselves against the (admittedly vanishingly small) chance that Mudryk demonstrates that he still has the abilities that led to them agreeing to pay up to £89 million for him more than 3 years ago? It would have been the height of madness on their part to agree a lower fee at this stage. Of course it is much more likely that by the end of this season Mudryk's perceived value will be less, very possibly significantly less, than the currently agreed £75 million and Spurs (and every other team) will have the option to offer a lower fee.

For the avoidance of doubt, I would much rather than we hadn't got ourselves in a position where we needed to turn to Mudryk as a left wing option. However, from what I've read it seems that we were pretty convinced that we were going to get Gakpo and that Ndaiye seemed a fairly bullet-proof alternative.
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I think the very low fee for Tosin was based on us also taking Mudryk and putting him in the shop window for them.
 
El Dante said:
Oh Savio is definitely levels above Mudryk. No doubt about that one. I’ve seen nothing about Mudryk to think that he’s Premier League level. Hopefully he will shut up myself and other critics but he has a lot to do.
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If you've 'seen nothing' then you've seen very little of him. Even if you just watched compilations of him in the Premier League he has done plenty of things - yes, compilations don't tell the whole story but he has shown himself to be a threat.

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It's not exactly difficult to work out why RDZ would want him when you look at his attributes and what he has to pick from with the rest of our attackers....
 
harr1984 said:
If you've 'seen nothing' then you've seen very little of him. Even if you just watched compilations of him in the Premier League he has done plenty of things - yes, compilations don't tell the whole story but he has shown himself to be a threat.

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It's not exactly difficult to work out why RDZ would want him when you look at his attributes and what he has to pick from with the rest of our attackers....
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He looked strong on the ball
 
We are doing Chelsea a favour here, they know they haven't got the space to help him get back to his best so they have loaned him out to us, if he comes good they can refuse to sell him to us and keep him themselves.
 
harr1984 said:
If you've 'seen nothing' then you've seen very little of him. Even if you just watched compilations of him in the Premier League he has done plenty of things - yes, compilations don't tell the whole story but he has shown himself to be a threat.

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It's not exactly difficult to work out why RDZ would want him when you look at his attributes and what he has to pick from with the rest of our attackers....
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I like the little feint right thing he does. Plenty of nutmegs in that vid also.

That is a decent highlights vid. If he didn't have that recent enforced sabbatical from football, I would be excited at the prospect of him playing for us. Let's hope he still has it.
 
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harr1984 said:
If you've 'seen nothing' then you've seen very little of him. Even if you just watched compilations of him in the Premier League he has done plenty of things - yes, compilations don't tell the whole story but he has shown himself to be a threat.

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It's not exactly difficult to work out why RDZ would want him when you look at his attributes and what he has to pick from with the rest of our attackers....
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Insane balance, there's a proper player in there. De Zerbi really focuses on repetition of playing patterns until it becomes automatic which could really iron out Mudryk's poor decision making. I'm actually quite excited about this guy.
 
FolkestoneSpur said:
Insane balance, there's a proper player in there. De Zerbi really focuses on repetition of playing patterns until it becomes automatic which could really iron out Mudryk's poor decision making. I'm actually quite excited about this guy.
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Not trying to be a dingdong, but Mudryk would need to score 135 goals in the next 5 years to match Timo Werner's output.

Players don't suddenly fix bad football intelligence or poor decision making at 25

Our best hope is this guy can hold his own as cover, and that's after the 2-3 months he will need to get match fit ..
 
harr1984 said:
If you've 'seen nothing' then you've seen very little of him. Even if you just watched compilations of him in the Premier League he has done plenty of things - yes, compilations don't tell the whole story but he has shown himself to be a threat.

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It's not exactly difficult to work out why RDZ would want him when you look at his attributes and what he has to pick from with the rest of our attackers....
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Two things;
I. That video shows nothing except he can beat a man and dribble for ten yards - it doesn't show what he does with the ball; which I suspect is often lose it
II. If you put subtitles on, it says Modric 🤔
 
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Yiddo said:
Well if its an option it means it can be negotiated no? i thought that was the point of an option rather than an obligation?
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My understanding is that an option means we can choose to buy or not at our own discretion, but an obligation means we have to buy regardless. In the first case, I don't think that Chelsea can pull the plug on a deal if we wish to proceed. That right has already been negotiated away.
 
harr1984 said:
If you've 'seen nothing' then you've seen very little of him. Even if you just watched compilations of him in the Premier League he has done plenty of things - yes, compilations don't tell the whole story but he has shown himself to be a threat.

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It's not exactly difficult to work out why RDZ would want him when you look at his attributes and what he has to pick from with the rest of our attackers....
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Even just watching the first minute of that video is eye opening. Maybe I’m too caught up in the narratives about him. Maybe I forget how he truly was as it’s been time since he last played.

From here, I will see what he does for us and judge on that. I want him to succeed as that likely means that we succeed. So let’s hope my next post is to stand back and saying I was wrong to judge too soon, and get caught up in the wind against him.
 
monkeybarry said:
I. That video shows nothing except he can beat a man and dribble for ten yards - it doesn't show what he does with the ball; which I suspect is often lose it
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yes thats why he was so frustrating...maybe rdz can coach him
on the other hand we lack an out and out speedy guy to stretch the play vertically. marmoush could be it but ideally should be starting from the flanks - mudryk would be excellent for this

also higher chance mudryk would regain match fitness without injuries, compared to kulu, madds and odobert
 
El Dante said:
Even just watching the first minute of that video is eye opening. Maybe I’m too caught up in the narratives about him. Maybe I forget how he truly was as it’s been time since he last played.

From here, I will see what he does for us and judge on that. I want him to succeed as that likely means that we succeed. So let’s hope my next post is to stand back and saying I was wrong to judge too soon, and get caught up in the wind against him.
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Yeah of course that's fair. I have no idea whether he will be a good signing or not. But he is rapid and can beat a man, let's face it we can't say that about our wingers over the past couple of years.

RDZ knows him and thinks he can add something and if he can get himself back on track he certainly can. I'm certainly not writing him off and looking forward to seeing what he can do - if he flops, well at least it was only a loan....
 
Mikey10 said:
If anyone can be arsed to go back to the days when we were constantly shipping Kane out on loan then they’d probably be able to find a load of s hite being written about his ability and character by some of our ‘fans’.

People change. He’s had almost two years to reflect on things. Let’s at least give the bloke a chance.
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And also, there's probably not a player in the world with more to prove than him. Let's see what he can bring before we cast judgment.
 
A few YouTube clips, the occasional matched watched and all of a sudden its a good transfer. Lets be real, no one wanted him before it happened and given some views on the German league I can't be taking Shaktar performance references from the same people.

Be honest here, it was a low ranking, last minute panic buy, thats fine, but lets stop kidding ourselves to the level some are.
 
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