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World Cup 2026: Mexico, USA and Canada

glasgowspur said:
It's easy to blame tuchel and he undoubtedly deserves criticism, but this has become a theme with England regardless of the manager.
There's no lack of talent in England, but that certain attitude or mind set that is needed to force your way over the line is missing.
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2 key moments on the pitch

Rogers counter when the brain dead idiot tried to shoot through a defender rather than lay it off

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And the more I see it, the more I think Pickford should be saving this.

Tactics were brick as well
 
The assistant pretty much said at half time that they were waiting for Argentina to flag and for the energy of the premier league players to carry them through. It didn’t happen and they seemed devoid of any ideas after that. Quite like what you see in Europe when some English teams go out. When the physicality doesn’t win the game there is often no idea what else to do
 
clownfoot said:
The assistant pretty much said at half time that they were waiting for Argentina to flag and for the energy of the premier league players to carry them through. It didn’t happen and they seemed devoid of any ideas after that. Quite like what you see in Europe when some English teams go out. When the physicality doesn’t win the game there is often no idea what else to do
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Yeah, there's probably quite something in that. The squad make up was more of runners and passers. If England had been able to play a Gibbs-White or Wharton they might have been able to keep more of the ball in the last 25 minutes last night
 
glorygloryeze? said:
Yeah, there's probably quite something in that. The squad make up was more of runners and passers. If England had been able to play a Gibbs-White or Wharton they might have been able to keep more of the ball in the last 25 minutes last night
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I think you have to also realise that when you switch to that defensive 5 you start moly cannot have your key players like Anderson as deep as your centre halves. It just invites the pressure.

Nobody can surely build a case for Harry being the 1 in a 5-4-1 either. How is that fair to a 32 year old in the last third of an intense game? You need a workaholic runner at 9 to offer angles and get into the channels.
 
Muttley said:
I think you have to also realise that when you switch to that defensive 5 you start moly cannot have your key players like Anderson as deep as your centre halves. It just invites the pressure.

Nobody can surely build a case for Harry being the 1 in a 5-4-1 either. How is that fair to a 32 year old in the last third of an intense game? You need a workaholic runner at 9 to offer angles and get into the channels.
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Agreed; actually the tactics look even more macaronic when you put it like that...
 
clownfoot said:
Pickford should have got to their first. Replay of Bellingham was shown after the match last night where he’s clearly seen saying ‘it’s in the middle of the goal’

Poor subs, some poor performances from starters too. Didn’t deserve to go through in my opinion. With hindsight I don’t think they were the better team against Norway either. Only so long you can play like that before being found out
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Thought we were the better team until we scored. Trying a low block for 30mins plus stoppage, is asking a lot, and as @Rorschach says, if you're going to do it, do it properly.
 
Rorschach said:
Anyway, go spain.
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Thread 'Moving Abroad'

Seeing as its came up on another thread and I know some on here have moved abroad or like me are thinking of it, would love to hear any stories of why? how its been? Cultural changes? Pitfalls? Plus points etc etc

As mentioned elsewhere seriously considering Cambodia, in particular Siem Reap as it has turned into a really cool and cosmopolitan city, great expat community and the value for money is insane. I accept somewhere becomes "the norm" over time like it does here, but still, change of scene might be needed.

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Legohamster said:
2 key moments on the pitch

Rogers counter when the brain dead idiot tried to shoot through a defender rather than lay it off

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And the more I see it, the more I think Pickford should be saving this.

Tactics were brick as well
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Yeah, that's not great. It is not exactly a 'rocket into the upper left quadrant'. He might have been a bit unsighted is his only defence (literally).
 
Muttley said:
I think you have to also realise that when you switch to that defensive 5 you start moly cannot have your key players like Anderson as deep as your centre halves. It just invites the pressure.

Nobody can surely build a case for Harry being the 1 in a 5-4-1 either. How is that fair to a 32 year old in the last third of an intense game? You need a workaholic runner at 9 to offer angles and get into the channels.
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I actually think Kane being a bit deeper in the 4 would be more of a weapon to release counters ... perhaps more in a 451 ...one man up top (Watkins or Toney?) and keep the wingers defensive but pacy for counters.
Means he can cut down on the running (just shutting around in a containing midfield) but he's deadly at perfect passing if we knick it off them.
 
Tuchel got it wrong. Think he looked at what you did against Mexico and thought he could do it v Argentina. To be fair to Argentina, their pulling apart of England was impressive. The amount of times they changed the angle of the attack to create openings, how difficult they were to knock off the ball, Messi. 39 years of age and he was magnificent in that last 20 mins for me. It’s not easy to play against that sort of set up but Argentina created a stack of chances with some great and intelligent play. They never panicked.

Tuchel got it wrong, for lots of the reasons outlined above by other posters, but the condemnation of him I’ve seen from people online and the likes of Cundy and O’Hara is ridiculous. He’s a top manager who made a really bad call at a crucial time. It’s not a hanging offence.
 
Apparently, nobody picked up on that, but, while at PSG, Tuchel had a reputation for his lax match preparations and video analysis, preferring to trust his 'instincts'. I'm biased because I never rated him in the first place. He struck gold while at Mainz and, from there, he only worked for big clubs, never staying too long in the same place.

I find the above rumor credible because my gut feeling is, he's got a decent system on paper but, unlike a lot of top managers, results tend to nose-dive the longer he stays, which would indicate that the theory is sound but he either can't or won't put up the necessary work to adapt to the opposition/circumstances. Of course, it's just my intuition, and certainly not a FACT - as people used to type all the time on message boards twenty years ago.
 
DeanoAustin said:
Tuchel got it wrong. Think he looked at what you did against Mexico and thought he could do it v Argentina. To be fair to Argentina, their pulling apart of England was impressive. The amount of times they changed the angle of the attack to create openings, how difficult they were to knock off the ball, Messi. 39 years of age and he was magnificent in that last 20 mins for me. It’s not easy to play against that sort of set up but Argentina created a stack of chances with some great and intelligent play. They never panicked.

Tuchel got it wrong, for lots of the reasons outlined above by other posters, but the condemnation of him I’ve seen from people online and the likes of Cundy and O’Hara is ridiculous. He’s a top manager who made a really bad call at a crucial time. It’s not a hanging offence.
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England fans are understandably emotional today. Turning on Tuchel is a therapy of sorts right now. In the end, they are the 4th best team in the world and will finish 3rd or 4th. Tuchel was just average, like most of their players all tournament.

I do not know anyone that was not an England fan that expected them to win the World Cup. They are a great team but not better than Spain, Argentina or France when it matters.

Tuchel went defensive too early but the players were not creating anything after their goal and before going defensive. Bellingham did not even show up and Kane was a walking waste for 80 minutes unfortunately.

IMO, Argentina win no matter what Tuchel did at the end. They have shown they find ways to come back every game in the end and England looked dead on their feet from the 75'.
 
That last quarter was like another dose of Frank/Nunoball 🥱

What a waste of attacking talent and utterly bizarre to concede so much space around the adage of our area thus allowing Messi to work his magic; if only Lionel was as selfish as Sorloth!

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thfcsteff said:
Tuchel sent signals. You cannot do that against teams like Argentina. I disagree that Argentina woke up with the concession, had Rogers played a better pass to Kane he's have been in for two. We dropped off. It was bizarre!
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England having a potential counter doesn't mean that Argentina weren't awake, that counter comes about exactly because Argentina started pushing high and trying to squeeze England into their box. Tbh this was happening even before the goal as that what the goal came from, it was a counter against the high line Argentina had decided to use in the 2nd half. That goal was scored in the manner you would expect England to do well in. Let's recall England 0 chances before the actual goal and virtually no moments in Argentina's box.

I don't have the stats but the 2nd half up to the goal was largely Argentina in possession, after the goal they just upped their focus. Getting squeezed by them is no disgrace and it wasn't a choice. The choice part is with the subs he made, rather than trying to asset some control in the middle he accepted they would have all of the ball. Quite possibly it's because Tuchel recognised that Argentina were already begining to dominate the midfield and having lost Rice he didn't believe England could compete in that area. That's where I think criticism of him is fair, he did not attempt to play on the counters he didn't make Argentina have to 2nd guess if they could push all the way up.
 
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