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J P van Hecke

ricky2tricky4city said:
I love the 'new player bias'

Danso has probably exceeded all our expectations in ability and solidity since joining. You keep him solely for that reason. He's a proven player..

It's no more than hope at the moment, that the new guys perform similarly

Plus it keeps together at least one partnership that we know works.

We have two to sell anyway....let's just get on with that.
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He was definately our best defender whenever he played.
 
harr1984 said:
Managers say a lot of things for a lot of reasons. I don't think he will be going either, and everyone sees the things he does well - he's quick and good dribbling with the ball. But defensively he fudges up a lot, sometimes his speed makes up for it other times not but his defensive intelligence is not particularly good. That can improve of course, he is still relatively young....
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I believe some quick centrebacks rely too much on their pace to get them out of trouble rather than reading the game and their position.
 
thfcsteff said:
Agree re: Vuskovic, I would be looking for a very competitive loan for him personally, just to develop for one more season. I hate having to sell Romero and think that yes, you're right, he is absolutely a marked man in the Prem meaning it is over for him here in all reality...
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The homegrown part could be an issue in regards to loaning him out, but I don't know the ins and outs of the rules well enough TBF. He would get game time for us next season too, but not as much as he would being loaned out. Guess it depends how he does in pre season and how impressed our coaching staff are.

Agreed on Romero, I think he's absolute quality, but I also have doubts about his motivation and reliability. Which probably makes it a good time to move him on.
 
Robbo said:
The homegrown part could be an issue in regards to loaning him out, but I don't know the ins and outs of the rules well enough TBF. He would get game time for us next season too, but not as much as he would being loaned out. Guess it depends how he does in pre season and how impressed our coaching staff are.

Agreed on Romero, I think he's absolute quality, but I also have doubts about his motivation and reliability. Which probably makes it a good time to move him on.
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He has to play for us (or be on domestic loan) for 3 seasons before/including the season he turns 21.

"An "association-trained player" is a player who, between the ages of 15 (or the start of the season during which the player turns 15) and 21 (or the end of the season during which the player turns 21), and irrespective of the player's nationality and age, has been registered with a club or with other clubs affiliated to the same association as that of the player's current club for a period, continuous or not, of three entire seasons."

He has no spare seasons left to not be in England.

Maybe its why the Barca/Madrid/Bayern interest is showing now, as he could still be HG for them too if he moves this summer?

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ricky2tricky4city said:
I love the 'new player bias'

Danso has probably exceeded all our expectations in ability and solidity since joining. You keep him solely for that reason. He's a proven player..

It's no more than hope at the moment, that the new guys perform similarly

Plus it keeps together at least one partnership that we know works.

We have two to sell anyway....let's just get on with that.
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It’s not bias. You can see how the market values them and he is 6th.
 
Gutter Boy said:
He has to play for us (or be on domestic loan) for 3 seasons before/including the season he turns 21.

"An "association-trained player" is a player who, between the ages of 15 (or the start of the season during which the player turns 15) and 21 (or the end of the season during which the player turns 21), and irrespective of the player's nationality and age, has been registered with a club or with other clubs affiliated to the same association as that of the player's current club for a period, continuous or not, of three entire seasons."

He has no spare seasons left to not be in England.

Maybe its why the Barca/Madrid/Bayern interest is showing now, as he could still be HG for them too if he moves this summer?

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He would never play the 3 seasons for another club though.
 
thfcsteff said:
Agree re: Vuskovic, I would be looking for a very competitive loan for him personally, just to develop for one more season. I hate having to sell Romero and think that yes, you're right, he is absolutely a marked man in the Prem meaning it is over for him here in all reality...
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What’s a better loan than staying at Spurs and leaving under RDZ for a year if he were to play half the games?
 
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robp135 said:
He’s going to go to a club that finished 10 places ahead of us in the table and we will be competing with for a European place?
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But needs a large enough squad to compete domestically and in Europe, while having an excellent track record of developing young players and playing good, possession-based football.

He’d be out of the spotlight down there a lot more than in London too, where he could maybe just keep learning his craft without many of the distractions.
 
Ace Face said:
But needs a large enough squad to compete domestically and in Europe, while having an excellent track record of developing young players and playing good, possession-based football.

He’d be out of the spotlight down there a lot more than in London too, where he could maybe just keep learning his craft without many of the distractions.
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The club cannot be in a situation where a club like Brighton has finished above us and Vuskovic has a similar year to what he did at Hamburg
 
robp135 said:
The club cannot be in a situation where a club like Brighton has finished above us and Vuskovic has a similar year to what he did at Hamburg
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Have you met Spurs?

Liverpool sort of did it once. There was one season a decade back where Sakho was their outstanding defender one season, but he was at Palace
 
Gutter Boy said:
Have you met Spurs?

Liverpool sort of did it once. There was one season a decade back where Sakho was their outstanding defender one season, but he was at Palace
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Yes but he was an established player that had already played 3 seasons for Liverpool and they sold him.

Different to a young player who’s clearly already good enough for your 1st team, going to a team that finished above you and they finish above you again because of him.

Final day of the season and we are battling with Brighton for 5th place and champions league football. Vuskovic scored a header to secure it for them. Costs the club £75M. This place will be ripping into Lange & Vinai for being idiots.
 
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