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mudshark
Justin Edinburgh
The only thing missing was him gobbing on himself after it was given.
That was like a breath of fresh air tonight, and boy, was it welcome.
Muttley
Milija Aleksic
I unfortunately missed the game but am chuffed with the result. Watched the highlights on YouTube and it was never a sending off. About time had something go in our favour though.
I'm just hoping this is a momentum shifter. Reading everyone's comments it seemed everyone was chuffed with having Udogie back, and impressed that Frank then unleashed Spence further forward. I got the impression that having our only real number 9 playing made a difference and also read that Xavi was impressive. I'm guess the 2 young midfielders played with maturity beyond their years as well, whilst the Romero/Danso partnership blossoms again.
I'm really happy for Frank. He'll hopefully have a few back at the weekend like Biss / Gallagher / Tel etc. If he can get another win, I think he can still turn this around.
Be nice to see Kulu getting involved soon.
I'm just hoping this is a momentum shifter. Reading everyone's comments it seemed everyone was chuffed with having Udogie back, and impressed that Frank then unleashed Spence further forward. I got the impression that having our only real number 9 playing made a difference and also read that Xavi was impressive. I'm guess the 2 young midfielders played with maturity beyond their years as well, whilst the Romero/Danso partnership blossoms again.
I'm really happy for Frank. He'll hopefully have a few back at the weekend like Biss / Gallagher / Tel etc. If he can get another win, I think he can still turn this around.
Be nice to see Kulu getting involved soon.
K.D.D.D.D.Soc
Nayim
It was a frustrating night for us at home as internet was not working, I only listen to matches on radio if I'm driving and had to keep checking text on TV (some say it's the best way to watch us this season), couldn't even follow it on here, pleased for everyone, the players must feel relief after that win. I had little hope of anything tonight.
DeanoAustin
Cecil Poynton
Didn’t see it as I’m away but woke this morning and am delighted with that. Great result and credit to Frank given the pressure he is under.
Still a long way back from here but that does not take away from the result.
Still a long way back from here but that does not take away from the result.
afsoc4life
Paul Stalteri
Didn't watch the match. Congratulations to the manager and the team. Solid progress in CL.
The first half in particular was so much better than what we've seen this season. Obviously having Solanke back helps, but just the intent and movement of giving forward options was great. Also helps having Udogie back who gives much better balance.
I can't help but feel it would be wrong to give up on Frank - the second best away record in the league, top 8 in the CL. It's been a horrendous couple of months performance and results wise but the players are playing for him and maybe as players return he could arrest the home form. To put in that performance and result with the number of players we had out was impressive. He deserves all the credit for matches like this, just needs to make it more frequent.....
The fact that we’re second in away results and 17th in home results is quite strong evidence to me that the toxic home atmosphere is contributing to our poor results.
DubaiSpur
Jack Jull
The tactical system was interesting - the three at the back system seemed to give our forward players a lot of license to press at will in that first 20-25m, even before the red card. It was a similar experience the last time Frank used it too, at PSG in the Super Cup. Wonder why he hasn't used it more often.
We currently have a reasonable number of roughly decent CBs (Romero, Danso, Dragusin, VdV, Takai - leaving out Davies given his long-term injury), with Vuskovic to come in this summer. Would be interesting seeing a three at the back system more often as the season wears on, with VdV stepping in to play the role Udogie played y'day, allowing the latter to return to being the left wing-back.
This also compensates for our lack of a progressive midfielder - we could play two 8s in midfield, i.e, Gallagher and Bergvall (for instance) and still have two 10s in front of them supporting the lone striker (as we did y'day with Simons and Odobert floating around).
Overall, it was a sorely needed pick-me-up after Spam. But it means nothing if Frank doesn't win the next two, against Burnley and Frankfurt.
We currently have a reasonable number of roughly decent CBs (Romero, Danso, Dragusin, VdV, Takai - leaving out Davies given his long-term injury), with Vuskovic to come in this summer. Would be interesting seeing a three at the back system more often as the season wears on, with VdV stepping in to play the role Udogie played y'day, allowing the latter to return to being the left wing-back.
This also compensates for our lack of a progressive midfielder - we could play two 8s in midfield, i.e, Gallagher and Bergvall (for instance) and still have two 10s in front of them supporting the lone striker (as we did y'day with Simons and Odobert floating around).
Overall, it was a sorely needed pick-me-up after Spam. But it means nothing if Frank doesn't win the next two, against Burnley and Frankfurt.
braineclipse
Garth Crooks
For sure both the red card and getting the early goal were significant factors. Even though they didn't create much they did put us under pressure in the second half, had they had 11 men on the pitch it could have been a different story.
But it's imo also true that the performance up until the red card was some of the best football we've played this season imo. Can we replicate that?
This is fair - he can't get by on European form alone. Needs to get performances & results in the league too
tommysvr
Steve Carr
Even more so with the upcoming fixtures. Burnley A next -- win that and it's "yeah we should be winning that". Lose and it's another very bad loss to a team in the relegation zone.
Following that it's a bit of a horror run where anything could happen.
K.D.D.D.D.Soc
Nayim
I agree a loss would be disappointing but away at Burnley is usually a tough game for most teams, I would like to see a good performance with more rhythm and pace in our play.
it was clear we were going to win 11 v 11 in the time they had the full compliment last night. We just were at it, the pressing, the turnovers, it was really well drilled and Solanke's mobility changed us up top in a way that highlights how much better he is than anyone else we have at the moment.
we can beat Saudi Sportswashing Machine and City in there - Utd need the Carrick bubble to have burst by then which it might do, and then we need to turn up against the goon squad - we should lose that on paper but a performance is an absolute must. If we limp through these fixtures and then don't perform in the NLD the fans' noise will be too much for TF to survive.
lurker of old
Ronnie Rosenthal
Like everyone else I knew that rationally we would probably struggle against Dortmund, given that they were on a winning run, but I also had a funny feeling that last night might somehow be our night...and I was up for showing my love for the club and support, however bad the result.
But the performance was light years better than anything I've seen at the Lane this season. Of course, it being Spurs, if anyone can mess up a 2 nil lead against 10 men, it's us. And Dortmund's fresh legs had us pegged back for quite a while in the second half.
Does the white kit give the players more confidence? Could we wear it against the arse in February?
But the performance was light years better than anything I've seen at the Lane this season. Of course, it being Spurs, if anyone can mess up a 2 nil lead against 10 men, it's us. And Dortmund's fresh legs had us pegged back for quite a while in the second half.
Does the white kit give the players more confidence? Could we wear it against the arse in February?
tommysvr
Steve Carr
It's a brick place to go, I agree. My feet are still fudging freezing from watching us struggle for 120 minutes in the Carling Cup semi final up there in 2009.
But their home form is woeful. If we don't have any confidence of beating lowly old Burnley then our expectations have absolutely plummeted.
Junior19
Michael Brown
Obviously the red card mixes things up, but history shows that it is not always easy to play 11 v 10, and absolutely not guaranteed an easy win just because the opponent gets a player sent off.
I saw interesting and positive stuff before the card, and I saw interesting and positive stuff after the card.
Now the -really- interesting stuff will be "what do we learn from this" going into the weekend and onwards?
Why have we only been playing ok-ish -after- we've thrown away the games in the league, after starting like petrified wooden men scared of the lumberjack first time we meet resistance?
Why do we play ok-ish/decent in CL when we've got far less expectations and pressure?
This is where I think Frank (and the rest of us!) has got to add 2 + 2 and get 4, if there is going to be a chance to salvage anything from this season.
To be fair, the kind of pressure Frank has been under since he came to Spurs must be quite something else compared to what he was used to. And although he probably expected it to be higher and more intense, it must have had an effect on him.
Sure there was pressure on the job at Brentford, and in Denmark, but let's face it, we're something else. A different animal altogether, and we devour any manager or player who does not hold up against that pressure.
The players, from young to senior shows that they -can- perform when the shackles are off. And few can question the effort and commitment they showed yesterday. (and by "perform" I don't neccessarily mean winning the league or the Champions League, but better than we've generally seen over the last 18 months or so)