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Guglielmo Vicario

It may have been said and i may be late to the party but im not convinced the boo-ing was aimed at Vicario specifically, but was a subconcious response to the weekly individual fudge ups by our players which directly lead to goals in every game we have recently played. The fans are tired of monumental individual errors every match.
 
Eriktheviking said:
It may have been said and i may be late to the party but im not convinced the boo-ing was aimed at Vicario specifically, but was a subconcious response to the weekly individual fudge ups by our players which directly lead to goals in every game we have recently played. The fans are tired of monumental individual errors every match.
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It was 100% aimed at Vicario. They booed everytime the ball went to him in the minutes after his error
 
monkeybarry said:
..... playing.....

He scores goals. Goals affect games.
He is good at two or three things - expecting more is unrealistic. But those things are pace, getting in good positions and putting the ball in the net, by hook or by crook.
It's no coincidence that he's benched and we've been profligate.
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I agree that his goalscoring knack is something we miss but I just don't think it will work with Frank. Our problem is creating chances, that is far from Johnson's forte. If it was a case of us creating a lot and not scoring then sure Johnson should be in the conversation.

But he is not really a chance creator unless there is space for him to run into and for the most part teams defend deep against us and we are just chucking crosses in the box - Johnson's crossing isn't great so he's not going to help in that area and he doesn't score many with his head so wouldnt score many either....
 
carl said:
It was 100% aimed at Vicario. They booed everytime the ball went to him in the minutes after his error
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I get that and what you say but let's say the team was doing OK this season, would Vicario get the treatment he did if the same thing happened? Im not convinced, his mistake was the final straw for many and was therefore the unfortunate recipient. Im not sure why the jeers were repeated, i certainly dint think Vic is deserving of that, look at his performances against Monaco and Everton.
 
harr1984 said:
I agree that his goalscoring knack is something we miss but I just don't think it will work with Frank. Our problem is creating chances, that is far from Johnson's forte. If it was a case of us creating a lot and not scoring then sure Johnson should be in the conversation.

But he is not really a chance creator unless there is space for him to run into and for the most part teams defend deep against us and we are just chucking crosses in the box - Johnson's crossing isn't great so he's not going to help in that area and he doesn't score many with his head so wouldnt score many either....
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Right now we need someone that looks like scoring. What he brings will ask questions of the opposition - at the minute we're playing like it's the other teams ball and we've been invited to make up the numbers.

He doesn't need space to run into for his goals - he's just as likely to scuff one in because he's in a decent position. In that sense he reminds me of Pavlyuchenko - not the most attractive player, but the ball went in.
 
harr1984 said:
I agree that his goalscoring knack is something we miss but I just don't think it will work with Frank. Our problem is creating chances, that is far from Johnson's forte. If it was a case of us creating a lot and not scoring then sure Johnson should be in the conversation.

But he is not really a chance creator unless there is space for him to run into and for the most part teams defend deep against us and we are just chucking crosses in the box - Johnson's crossing isn't great so he's not going to help in that area and he doesn't score many with his head so wouldnt score many either....
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Again I will raise the question of teams defending deep against us. I feel that it's a hangover of belief from when we were decent and not the reality of how teams set up against us now.
 
monkeybarry said:
In that sense he reminds me of Pavlyuchenko - not the most attractive player, but the ball went in.
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Pav may have been crap in the build up but I always thought he had a decent shot on him. He scored some real crackers.

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fernadez said:
Again I will raise the question of teams defending deep against us. I feel that it's a hangover of belief from when we were decent and not the reality of how teams set up against us now.
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Indeed. Teams aren't dropping deep against us they are instead pressing us and penning us in. Then through a combination of having so many men behind the ball, not really having any set pattern of play and also having a team that seems to play in a horse shoe type way with no penetrating passes through the centre we're not progressing the ball forward into positions where we create chances.
 
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