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Guglielmo Vicario

harr1984 said:
The mind boggles. Booing the team as a collective after a poor performance is one thing. Booing an individual player, especially the goalkeeper who is the most isolated player on the pitch is just counter productive - what benefit do any of these clowns think they are getting from it...,
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I'm guessing it's partly due to the comments he made a few weeks ago about the crowd, that relationship is gone.

The clubs pretty toxic at the moment
 
Legohamster said:
I don't think we can brush the keeper issue under the carpet anymore, he's costing us goals regularly, that's a pretty big issue.
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He is actually saving us goals regularly too. Even the most biased can see that
The issue is if we don’t score many it becomes double edged
We conceded 9 goals in the last 2 games before yesterday and none were his fault, although I know some think he should have saved the penalty
Yesterday that second was clearly his fault despite what some may say

I’ve also heard Porro should be binned. He is Spains starting right back and they are a top footballing side.

Who else do we need rid of?

Maybe the issue starts with the way the players are or aren’t instructed to play.
 
Bedfordspurs said:
He is actually saving us goals regularly too. Even the most biased can see that
The issue is if we don’t score many it becomes double edged
We conceded 9 goals in the last 2 games before yesterday and none were his fault, although I know some think he should have saved the penalty
Yesterday that second was clearly his fault despite what some may say

I’ve also heard Porro should be binned. He is Spains starting right back and they are a top footballing side.

Who else do we need rid of?

Maybe the issue starts with the way the players are or aren’t instructed to play.
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What outstanding saves are resulting in points?

Leeds away is the one that springs to mind, but he was suspect over the first goal.

If we are having to score 1 or 2 extra goals to get points, it's always going to be harder.
 
Legohamster said:
What outstanding saves are resulting in points?

Leeds away is the one that springs to mind, but he was suspect over the first goal.

If we are having to score 1 or 2 extra goals to get points, it's always going to be harder.
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Everton for a start, Monaco. The stats show which keepers gain teams point and he is consistently right up there

His cards are marked by some fans and they won’t change their views. That’s not gonna change

Nice to see it’s not Johnson who is to blame this season
 
Bedfordspurs said:
Everton for a start, Monaco. The stats show which keepers gain teams point and he is consistently right up there

His cards are marked by some fans and they won’t change their views. That’s not gonna change

Nice to see it’s not Johnson who is to blame this season
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But all keepers make saves. That’s a prerequisite for a keeper.

Johnson is another who needs replacing.
 
elltrev said:
Exactly. It’s less obvious with keepers saving goals than it is with players scoring goals, so I think a lot of people feel like all keepers essentially save a similar number of goals, which just isn’t true.
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It’s certainly not binary that’s for sure. I don’t know if Arse fans jumped on reya last week for letting in another lob from distance or do they sit there and go well… he does keep clean sheets when others don’t make mistakes so maybe he is good.

What is for sure is that some players get hated on and people wait for their next failings. I’m sure that’s the same at all clubs

Just odd human behaviour though for me, but then maybe it’s me
 
Bedfordspurs said:
It’s certainly not binary that’s for sure. I don’t know if Arse fans jumped on reya last week for letting in another lob from distance or do they sit there and go well… he does keep clean sheets when others don’t make mistakes so maybe he is good.

What is for sure is that some players get hated on and people wait for their next failings. I’m sure that’s the same at all clubs

Just odd human behaviour though for me, but then maybe it’s me
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If you were in the south stand behind your goalkeeper after he’d made an absolute howler and you thought the thing to do was boo him shortly after as he took a goal kick then you are (word I don’t like to hear or use but..) a c@nt. (Hate even typing that).
 
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