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I thought I read that Red Bull would probably be at a disadvantage from next year with the new engine rules or something. I can't imagine Verstappen being the sort of person to hang around the middle of the pack like Hamilton and Alonso. Maybe he'll just quit instead.
 
dingdongo said:
I thought I read that Red Bull would probably be at a disadvantage from next year with the new engine rules or something. I can't imagine Verstappen being the sort of person to hang around the middle of the pack like Hamilton and Alonso. Maybe he'll just quit instead.
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No one knows that. It will be the first time Red Bull develop their own engine, but they've been working on it for years, and it's not exactly novices they've employed to develop it. There's been rumours about his dad, Jos Verstappen, being the team boss next season.
 
Performance wise they can longer rely on Wax winning and 2nd car in the points.
I think this is a bit of a move towards being a team again instead of a one man band.
 
Saw a video from the Belgian GP 1998, wet and rainy, everyone crashed, it seemed. How they get to race when its raining and poor visibility I won't understand - looks dangerous as fudge.
 
Daisuk said:
Saw a video from the Belgian GP 1998, wet and rainy, everyone crashed, it seemed. How they get to race when its raining and poor visibility I won't understand - looks dangerous as fudge.
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That race was mental, Hill’s last win I believe.
 
Thought Mclaren/ Norris missed a massive oppotunity.

Rain on the track whilst the red flag and clear up took place, what do McLaren do? Send out Norris first!! Why! Redbull far more canny sending both cars out last. So the cars in front dried out the track. Didn't hear anyone on the commentry mention it, but was obvious as the cars were lining up. Redbull smarter.

Norris should have been able to get back in it, but they threw it away!
 
SpurMeUp said:
Thought Mclaren/ Norris missed a massive oppotunity.

Rain on the track whilst the red flag and clear up took place, what do McLaren do? Send out Norris first!! Why! Redbull far more canny sending both cars out last. So the cars in front dried out the track. Didn't hear anyone on the commentry mention it, but was obvious as the cars were lining up. Redbull smarter.

Norris should have been able to get back in it, but they threw it away!
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they have been making dumb racing decisions all season, last year too
 
SpurMeUp said:
Thought Mclaren/ Norris missed a massive oppotunity.

Rain on the track whilst the red flag and clear up took place, what do McLaren do? Send out Norris first!! Why! Redbull far more canny sending both cars out last. So the cars in front dried out the track. Didn't hear anyone on the commentry mention it, but was obvious as the cars were lining up. Redbull smarter.

Norris should have been able to get back in it, but they threw it away!
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The flip side to that decision is that the first one out gets an early lap in. Everyone else runs the risk of another red flag and not recording a time at all.

The best solution would have been to fuel for 2 push laps and move slightly faster on his cool down lap.
 
scaramanga said:
The flip side to that decision is that the first one out gets an early lap in. Everyone else runs the risk of another red flag and not recording a time at all.

The best solution would have been to fuel for 2 push laps and move slightly faster on his cool down lap.
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On a wet greesy track, was a terrible move, as it wasn't raining heavily. Otherwise yes, first would have been better. Redbull aced it. Noris/mclaren fuked it!
 
markysimmo said:
Another win for Lando !!

24 points in front with 3 races to go
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And now on pole with Piastri only 5th. Anything can still happen - Noris crashes out - and its back on for Piastri still. The Aussi has lost it mentally though. Or can't adapt to a new setup with the car. He looked on par with Noris, sometimes better at the start of the season. But now its totally reversed. From Piastri having confidence and being mentally stronger, Noris is looking like the No. 1 driver, and Piastri can't keep up. Lando's to lose now.
 
Do you think teams every tweak the cars to give one an advantage? Like giving Norris the slightest edge if it benefits the team overall, marketing, sponsorship etc.
 
dingdongo said:
Do you think teams every tweak the cars to give one an advantage? Like giving Norris the slightest edge if it benefits the team overall, marketing, sponsorship etc.
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Piastri has a different suspension setup to Noris. But it is his preference and apparently there isn’t much in it anyway.

So no I don’t think teams purposely handicap one driver.

At Redbull the car is designed for Verstapen who likes a very pointy setup. A fast car is often a difficult car to drive. Having things on edge, right on the limit makes it fast. But impossible for anyone without the history at Redbull to jump into the car and drive well. For years now the same car has been significantly slower in the second drivers hands. It’s not a slower car - Redbull need the points from the second car to finish higher up in the constructors championship and earn more prize money
 
SpurMeUp said:
Piastri has a different suspension setup to Noris. But it is his preference and apparently there isn’t much in it anyway.

So no I don’t think teams purposely handicap one driver.

At Redbull the car is designed for Verstapen who likes a very pointy setup. A fast car is often a difficult car to drive. Having things on edge, right on the limit makes it fast. But impossible for anyone without the history at Redbull to jump into the car and drive well. For years now the same car has been significantly slower in the second drivers hands. It’s not a slower car - Redbull need the points from the second car to finish higher up in the constructors championship and earn more prize money
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They did the same for Vettel too.
 
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