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***Tottenham Hotspur v Everton*** - OMT

DubSpur said:
Yeah, he was really good. Interviewer trying to create controversary about the disallowed goal but he was big enough to say it was the correct decision. Most managers would've been complaining
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Yes, interviewer was really snide. She said something like "you didn't score, what do you need to fix, do you need more confidence, do you need to work on xyz" and that is really unfair, they nearly scored 3 themselves, but Vic had a blinder and they didn't get the luck.

Grealish, Dewsbury Hall and Ndiaye really showed some classy play, far moreso than our "attackers".

Overall, our defensive spine of Bentancur Palhinha VdV Danso and Vic was great.
But Spence did not 'incarcerate' Ndiaye at all. Ditto Porro with Grealish. And of course the front 4 of Xavi Muani Kudus Johnson didn't do much at all.

I was very pleased that Thomas Frank tried a strange formation, that is what we need from him, not just the same again and again, but some weird wonky system that overloads in strange ways.
 
Some random thoughts that come to mind post the game. A very interesting performance, great game from Vicario obviously. Kudus would be close for MOTM it was kind of ridiculous how he was Porro's defensive support, the out ball for Bentancur and Palhina in midfield and at the same time the outside right width attacking threat, no idea what Johnson was doing or where he was playing. 😂😩

Very decent game from Bentancur, I felt he made significant efforts to pass more positively rather than constantly laying it backwards. Palhinha was there doing his thing, in a defensive respect both were quite good. Everton did get though at times but I never felt it was due to poor play really by either but more so it was due to Everton's actual quality.

Simons was disappointing, I've watched enough of him at various clubs to expect better from him. I don't think he's struggling for fitness, but maybe confidence in not sure but he's getting the basics very wrong at the moment. Playing on the left doesn't help him but it's no excuse, he should be doing better with the basics.

MuanI I thought was a positive, scraps yes but he was every positive with them. The link play was nice, his movement was really good Simons should have probably found him on a couple of those promising counters. I have a ton of belief on him and do really confident giving fitness he will impress for us.

Danso and VDV were great, even though Vicario had to really work today again I can't think of any real criticisms for either even if we had conceded. Which I find semi confusing, I guess it just says more about much attacking quality Everton displayed today whereby I'm really rating the work of the CBs and Goalkeeper today.
 
Bishop said:
Some random thoughts that come to mind post the game. A very interesting performance, great game from Vicario obviously. Kudus would be close for MOTM it was kind of ridiculous how he was Porro's defensive support, the out ball for Bentancur and Palhina in midfield and at the same time the outside right width attacking threat, no idea what Johnson was doing or where he was playing. 😂😩

Very decent game from Bentancur, I felt he made significant efforts to pass more positively rather than constantly laying it backwards. Palhinha was there doing his thing, in a defensive respect both were quite good. Everton did get though at times but I never felt it was due to poor play really by either but more so it was due to Everton's actual quality.

Simons was disappointing, I've watched enough of him at various clubs to expect better from him. I don't think he's struggling for fitness, but maybe confidence in not sure but he's getting the basics very wrong at the moment. Playing on the left doesn't help him but it's no excuse, he should be doing better with the basics.

MuanI I thought was a positive, scraps yes but he was every positive with them. The link play was nice, his movement was really good Simons should have probably found him on a couple of those promising counters. I have a ton of belief on him and do really confident giving fitness he will impress for us.

Danso and VDV were great, even though Vicario had to really work today again I can't think of any real criticisms for either even if we had conceded. Which I find semi confusing, I guess it just says more about much attacking quality Everton displayed today whereby I'm really rating the work of the CBs and Goalkeeper today.
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I think this is a decent overall overview mate...we focus on what we're doing as opposed to what we're not doing...
 
K.D.D.D.D.Soc said:
Did not see game but reading comments I hope we ask PL to award the game to Everton as we did not deserve the win and were terrible.
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I really don't know what people in here expect! Everton hadn't lost at home so far, we go there playing an almost perfect away game and smash them 3-0, and people are still moaning and bitching like there's no tomorrow!
Baffles me!
 
K.D.D.D.D.Soc said:
I can't remember us ever win a game 3-0 with all our goals being headers or us getting 3 such goals in any game, I hope someone will enlighten us.
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Apparently the first time we’ve scored 3 headed goals in a league game since 2008…

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Sarr's muted celebration......

He started the season very well, scored a few goals but then has hardly played for weeks... I think he is tinkled off and sulking and he was probably thinking " so what, I won't start the next game anyway"....

And the reason i say this is because I was a temperamental so and so on the pitch and I would have done exactly the same....

COYS
 
SissokoWasGood (BoL) said:
I think to exploit set pieces you need to have a physically big team. Arsenal not only have big players in the positions you’d expect them to but their full backs are tall, their central midfielders are tall, and it means their investment in set pieces is more likely to pay off. With Ange playing more nimble central midfielders and smaller full backs who can invert, it’s just different. It might be that a focus on set pieces would hinder us. By contrast I would say the Bentancur and Palinha central midfield pays off not in terms of a pretty possession game but in terms of set pieces and knock downs. That’s likely a big part of the reason for their selection together.

What I liked today other than the result was a little more innovation in possession. It’s not much, but the Kudus / Johnson overload on the right was an interesting adaptation to the game which likely kept Grealish busy coming back and made it easier to double up on him the other way with Johnson while retaining the Kudus out ball threat. It’s the kind of game specific adaptation that I understood to be Frank’s calling card.
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I agree with some of that, but I'd take exception to the idea that Ange's team was significantly shorter than this one. Compare the different players in today's team against their equivalents from last season - Spence, Xavi, Kudus, Kolo Muani and Palhinha, and add Udogie, Maddison, Kulusevski, Solanke, and Bissouma.

There's not much of a height difference between the former and the latter group - hell, I think the latter might be marginally taller because Maddison and Kulu are taller than their counterparts in Kudus and Xavi, which makes up for Palhinha being taller than Biss.

Agreed on the little tactical innovations - Porro popping up on the left of midfield and playing balls out to Johnson / Kudus on his stronger foot also felt like a deliberate thing, given it happened twice or thrice in transition.
 
fernadez said:
Can remember one decent dribble by Johnson, some early touches and not much else.

Not really sure what is to be done with him.
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There was one right at the end where he took on two men, got between them, got to the six-yard box and won a corner.

I think even he was surprised by that, because I know half the watching audience was!

It's up to him really - given our perilous HG situation, it's unlikely we'd be open to losing him easily, even if he's no longer first choice right-winger with Kudus's arrival. If he can bulk up and work on his explosiveness a bit, I see no reason he can't end up like a Kevin Schade, or (stretching it a bit) a Ferran Torres at Barcelona, who transitioned from mediocre winger to passable striker.
 
NLS said:
Sarr's muted celebration......

He started the season very well, scored a few goals but then has hardly played for weeks... I think he is tinkled off and sulking and he was probably thinking " so what, I won't start the next game anyway"....

And the reason i say this is because I was a temperamental so and so on the pitch and I would have done exactly the same....

COYS
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Might be linked to the kidnap and murder of his Senegalese teammate last week…

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Cheikh Toure's death was confirmed on Saturday, with his body set to be brought back to Senegal.
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K.D.D.D.D.Soc said:
Very good managers who usually does well with what he's got, just not sexy enough for media.
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One of the great what-ifs for me is if he stayed at Everton when United came knocking.

That United stint basically derailed both his career, and Everton's own progression, for a full decade.

After he left, Moshiri rocked up and then spent a load of dosh on Everton managers from Martinez to Ancelotti and beyond, without any success to justify the spending.

Whereas if Moyes had stayed where he was, I think with that money he could have built a very dangerous Everton side that would have continued to challenge for top four throughout the 2010s. Would have been an Everton legend at the end of it, too, with longevity comparable to Ferguson/Wenger. And their stadium would have been a bit easier to build if they were consistently up there, in and around Europe.

Really a move that worked for no one - not Moyes, not United, not Everton. Maybe worked for us, because Everton fell away as a threat after he left and allowed us a pretty easy ride as we grew throughout the 2010s.
 
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Might be linked to the kidnap and murder of his Senegalese teammate last week…

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18-Year-Old Footballer Killed After Kidnapping, Authorities Confirm

Cheikh Toure's death was confirmed on Saturday, with his body set to be brought back to Senegal.
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Woah - didn't know this, and makes sense that he'd be shaken by it. Poor kid. :(
 
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