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Harry Kane MBE

Baleforce said:
Yes, and that tracks if it’s trophies at any cost, but if he wants to feel like he’s achieved something, and been the difference, what does he get at City?

They could play me up front next season and they’d still win everything.
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I was excluding City from the discussion tbf - i think if it was an option next summer that'd be his preference.
 
billyiddo said:
But that isn't what the poster said, he just said Poch would sign Kane if he had a good season with Chelsea and it could be sold to him that he'd be the missing piece of the jigsaw for them (presumably to win the big prizes) - you've just reframed that point as Kane going there just because of Poch.
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As I say
Everytime it comes up, someone says it
 
Bedfordspurs said:
Plenty of teams would go for a free transfer kane
For Kane there would be many better picks
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Taking the rivalry/legacy aspect out of it i wouldn't say there would be many better picks for a London based English player than a hypothetically resurgent Chelsea, who would look to be a genuine threat to the PL & CL - in fact on paper it would likely be the best option for him (keeping the legacy aspect to one side, as said)
 
Baleforce said:
The game took a massive step forward at that time. It is relevant.

Greaves was a genius, but he had 2 pints and a roast before every game, everyone smoked, it was a different game then.

You put a 60’s player in the PL, they would be subbed 10 mins in, you put a player from now into a 60’s game and they will run rings around everyone through fitness alone.
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It didn’t take a massive step forward in 1992. I watched highlights of an early Premier League game a few weeks ago. From the mid 90s. Standard was very poor relative to today.

There were still lads in Shearers time having pints in the run up to games. Listen to Roy Keane talk about his early years at United. Listen to Merson talk about Arsenal and Middlesbrough. It’s evolved over the last 30 years…no doubt. But everything evolves. At what point do you discount records because the game has evolved since they were set.

Harry sets the record in the next 2 years. Does someone come along in 30 years and say “no longer really valid because the game now is much better than it was”?

For me, the record would be a very flimsy reason to stay in the premier league if that was the sole or primary motivation.
 
billyiddo said:
Taking the rivalry/legacy aspect out of it i wouldn't say there would be many better picks for a London based English player than a hypothetically resurgent Chelsea, who would look to be a genuine threat to the PL & CL - in fact on paper it would likely be the best option for him (keeping the legacy aspect to one side, as said)
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I’d argue that they are a club without any stability or strategy
Using the london logic arsenal would be better
And we know he is happy to leave the country to join Munich so he doesn’t care about remaining in London
 
DeanoAustin said:
It didn’t take a massive step forward in 1992. I watched highlights of an early Premier League game a few weeks ago. From the mid 90s. Standard was very poor relative to today.

There were still lads in Shearers time having pints in the run up to games. Listen to Roy Keane talk about his early years at United. Listen to Merson talk about Arsenal and Middlesbrough. It’s evolved over the last 30 years…no doubt. But everything evolves. At what point do you discount records because the game has evolved since they were set.

Harry sets the record in the next 2 years. Does someone come along in 30 years and say “no longer really valid because the game now is much better than it was”?

For me, the record would be a very flimsy reason to stay in the premier league if that was the sole or primary motivation.
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It wasn't overnight but the PL formation was the catalyst for change.
 
DeanoAustin said:
It didn’t take a massive step forward in 1992. I watched highlights of an early Premier League game a few weeks ago. From the mid 90s. Standard was very poor relative to today.

There were still lads in Shearers time having pints in the run up to games. Listen to Roy Keane talk about his early years at United. Listen to Merson talk about Arsenal and Middlesbrough. It’s evolved over the last 30 years…no doubt. But everything evolves. At what point do you discount records because the game has evolved since they were set.

Harry sets the record in the next 2 years. Does someone come along in 30 years and say “no longer really valid because the game now is much better than it was”?

For me, the record would be a very flimsy reason to stay in the premier league if that was the sole or primary motivation.
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Fair points.

I'd say yes, if the game evolves by the same amount again, then yes, Kane was fudging brick and that record is irrelevant.
 
DeanoAustin said:
It didn’t take a massive step forward in 1992. I watched highlights of an early Premier League game a few weeks ago. From the mid 90s. Standard was very poor relative to today.

There were still lads in Shearers time having pints in the run up to games. Listen to Roy Keane talk about his early years at United. Listen to Merson talk about Arsenal and Middlesbrough. It’s evolved over the last 30 years…no doubt. But everything evolves. At what point do you discount records because the game has evolved since they were set.

Harry sets the record in the next 2 years. Does someone come along in 30 years and say “no longer really valid because the game now is much better than it was”?

For me, the record would be a very flimsy reason to stay in the premier league if that was the sole or primary motivation.
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The football only 15 years ago was pretty average
Watching it back it just looks slow in comparison to the game now
 
Bedfordspurs said:
I’d argue that they are a club without any stability or strategy
Using the london logic arsenal would be better
And we know he is happy to leave the country to join Munich so he doesn’t care about remaining in London
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They are now, but we're talking about hypothetical scenario 12 months from now with Chelsea as force on the pitch again - in that instance it could easily be sold that he would be joining a team to seriously challenge for both the CL & PL, i don't think he'd choose many (if any) clubs over that even if he is open to Bayetn this summer (again putting to one side the rivalry aspect)
 
billyiddo said:
They are now, but we're talking about hypothetical scenario 12 months from now with Chelsea as force on the pitch again - in that instance it could easily be sold that he would be joining a team to seriously challenge for both the CL & PL, i don't think he'd choose many (if any) clubs over that even if he is open to Bayetn this summer (again putting to one side the rivalry aspect)
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I understand and accept your point, but if they have a good season this year, its Chelsea, its mid table and three managers next time around
 
billyiddo said:
They are now, but we're talking about hypothetical scenario 12 months from now with Chelsea as force on the pitch again - in that instance it could easily be sold that he would be joining a team to seriously challenge for both the CL & PL, i don't think he'd choose many (if any) clubs over that even if he is open to Bayetn this summer (again putting to one side the rivalry aspect)
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I don’t see any player of Kanes level leaving us unless it’s a guarantee
He gets that at Barca, psg and the two Spanish clubs
In England it’s city
Chelsea would have to improve by 100% just finish second based in city’s points last season
I can’t see it
and I can see Boehly sacking Poch in 18 months and resorting back to buying players off the BBC rumours page as much as I can see them getting back to be a top side
The thing in their favour is their pseudo owners in Saudi can take all the cast offs they want to pump money back in
 
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