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Fabio Paratici - Consultant

Mcfee said:
The club should’ve known.
A journalist was able to find out by simply asking the question.
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I thought FIFA only made the decision yesterday? Or do you mean a journalist had already found out before yesterday that FIFA were going to make a decision before the appeal? Sorry, on holiday at the moment so not following in detail.
 
scaramanga said:
Does anyone really think he won't be working if banned anyway?

Much like all of those struck off directors whose wives suddenly start up very similar businesses, he'll need someone to sign the paperwork but proving that talking to people, watching games, being around the club is illegal would be incredibly difficult.
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You're right and he can do all the legwork without appearing anywhere officially, but do you really want to be operating like this as a club? At the fringes of the law like some mob organization? And rely on Paratici not overstepping into an area where we would be legally culpable?

I don't think we want to put ourselves in this situation and, even if we are technically within the legal boundaries, the optics wouldn't be great. I'd rather we go after the best DoF out there and make him an offer he can't refuse.
 
alekaras said:
You're right and he can do all the legwork without appearing anywhere officially, but do you really want to be operating like this as a club? At the fringes of the law like some mob organization? And rely on Paratici not overstepping into an area where we would be legally culpable?

I don't think we want to put ourselves in this situation and, even if we are technically within the legal boundaries, the optics wouldn't be great. I'd rather we go after the best DoF out there and make him an offer he can't refuse.
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Even setting aside the optics, someone as cautious about staying within the financial rules as Levy is not going to have a former-DoF, banned for fraudulent financial activity,‘consulting’ in the background.
Plus we need a visible, hands-on, DoF, not a shadowy background figure.
 
Glenda's Legs said:
I thought FIFA only made the decision yesterday? Or do you mean a journalist had already found out before yesterday that FIFA were going to make a decision before the appeal? Sorry, on holiday at the moment so not following in detail.
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Yes it appears that a journo (guardian/observer) phoned FIFA asking the question......

His 30-month ban initially applied only to Italian football but Fifa said in a statement on Wednesday in response to a question from the Guardian relating to Paratici: “Fifa can confirm that following a request by the Italian FA (FIGC), the chairperson of Fifa disciplinary committee has decided to extend the sanctions imposed by FIGC on several football officials to have worldwide effect.”

This was news to the club having not had contact from FIFA. So the alarm bells rang.
 
alekaras said:
You're right and he can do all the legwork without appearing anywhere officially, but do you really want to be operating like this as a club? At the fringes of the law like some mob organization? And rely on Paratici not overstepping into an area where we would be legally culpable?

I don't think we want to put ourselves in this situation and, even if we are technically within the legal boundaries, the optics wouldn't be great. I'd rather we go after the best DoF out there and make him an offer he can't refuse.
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Agree. Let Paratici carry on doing some legwork, but behind the scenes be 100% busy finding his replacement. Let's not forget the shady part of this situation is all on him.
 
ricky2tricky4city said:
Ahhh...so that's how you find things out from FIFA?

Silly us.
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Not sure if the sarcasm is aimed at me or the club or FIFA or all 3 :D but yeah I read the same Guardian report as you and the way it’s presented is like the information was easy to obtain or else FIFA only decided to disclose their decision when asked or else they made the decision on the fly. Bizarre!
Either way the club looks like they’ve been caught flat-footed and someone is not doing their job very well.
 
Baleforce said:
Guy in charge of squad makes statements about intentions of squad.

Would the ENIC out/Levy should stay away from football lot have been happier had it come from the chairman instead?
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Well i think no matter who/what/where was said the above group who moan about it, its what they do.
 
alekaras said:
You're right and he can do all the legwork without appearing anywhere officially, but do you really want to be operating like this as a club? At the fringes of the law like some mob organization? And rely on Paratici not overstepping into an area where we would be legally culpable?

I don't think we want to put ourselves in this situation and, even if we are technically within the legal boundaries, the optics wouldn't be great. I'd rather we go after the best DoF out there and make him an offer he can't refuse.
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I'd rather FIFA fudged off and kept out of it. But if they insist on getting in our way then we have to make the best of it.

If Paratici is the DoF Levy wants, then we should just get on with it.
 
Mcfee said:
Not sure if the sarcasm is aimed at me or the club or FIFA or all 3 :D but yeah I read the same Guardian report as you and the way it’s presented is like the information was easy to obtain or else FIFA only decided to disclose their decision when asked or else they made the decision on the fly. Bizarre!
Either way the club looks like they’ve been caught flat-footed and someone is not doing their job very well.
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Yes. The administrators at FIFA.

This decision has a direct effect on the operation of a football club and an executive employee. They are the decision maker and must communicate that directly to us as soon as that decision is made. And to that point, it should not be easy to obtain!

Amateur time.
 
LemonadeMoney said:
What's this based on? You've just taken a dislike to someone based on what?
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I freely admit this is somewhat irrational given I don't have tea with the man on a regular basis, but I did not like what I saw of his worming methods and did not like what I saw of the man as presented to us. He always seemed a little 'old school sleazy' and, well, call me an unfair and irrational judgmental person, but by proxy therefore a bit dodgy.
 
scaramanga said:
I'd rather FIFA fudged off and kept out of it. But if they insist on getting in our way then we have to make the best of it.

If Paratici is the DoF Levy wants, then we should just get on with it.
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There's too many potential hurdles/disruptions.

As I said yesterday, by virtue of needing a new manager, we may as well go with a total reboot as a collective decision. Hopefully that helps us iron out any compatibility issues as well.

It's cleaner. The board are under pressure and to have ongoing clouds over the DofF just opens them up to criticism down the line. Conversely I don't think getting rid of Paratici would, most people would understand the reasoning in moving on from him. It's not like you're getting rid of a real gem.
 
thfcsteff said:
I freely admit this is somewhat irrational given I don't have tea with the man on a regular basis, but I did not like what I saw of his worming methods and did not like what I saw of the man as presented to us. He always seemed a little 'old school sleazy' and, well, call me an unfair and irrational judgmental person, but by proxy therefore a bit dodgy.
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Cheap suits...greasy hair;)
 
Bedfordspurs said:
I don’t know either
They can’t win in this situation and it’s not because of something the club have done or benefited from
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Put simply, the club don't tend to directly respond to situations, they take a more reserved reaction. They should've been ahead of this. It wasn't (apparently!) hard to be. Their statement was based on criticism of them allowing him to make that video statement, and as such came across as an apse-covering exercise (futile IMO). But hey, if you don't see a problem with it, don't go looking! :D
 
thfcsteff said:
I freely admit this is somewhat irrational given I don't have tea with the man on a regular basis, but I did not like what I saw of his worming methods and did not like what I saw of the man as presented to us. He always seemed a little 'old school sleazy' and, well, call me an unfair and irrational judgmental person, but by proxy therefore a bit dodgy.
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Isn't all of football a bit dodgy? If you want to win something, it's by 'all means necessary', otherwise you may as well give up and go home.
 
tommysvr said:
If Levy knew Paratici would one day be banned from football then it would be absolutely idiotic to even contemplate hiring him. Levy's made mistakes but I don't think he's that dumb.
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levy is not dumb. He’s super canny.

He would not have expected a ban, yet he’d have known full well Paratici was one of the dung beetles in the Juventus brickheap, and he calculated it was worth them both rummaging in it to find some treasure at the price of him getting covered in a layer of brick.
 
johnola said:
levy is not dumb. He’s super canny.

He would not have expected a ban, yet he’d have known full well Paratici was one of the dung beetles in the Juventus brickheap, and he calculated it was worth them both rummaging in it to find some treasure at the price of him getting covered in a layer of brick.
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Why is Levy getting covered in a layer of brick? If Paratici leaves tomorrow, we'll have Romero, Udogie, Bentancur, Kulusevski and maybe others, to show for it?
 
johnola said:
levy is not dumb. He’s super canny.

He would not have expected a ban, yet he’d have known full well Paratici was one of the dung beetles in the Juventus brickheap, and he calculated it was worth them both rummaging in it to find some treasure at the price of him getting covered in a layer of brick.
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I reckon you’re digging a bit deep to try and find any reason to blame Levy, but maybe that’s just me.
 
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