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Putin & Russia

how hard can it be, its just a stick and some pedals

(Says man on the internet)
Easy.

Apparently a fighter jet is to a little Cessna what an F1 car is to a Vauxhall Nova. Cessnas are really easy to fly and on the rare occasions I get to go on an F1 simulator I can almost make the second corner.
 
People don’t like Putin but they are still patriotic, and they of course feel for their soldiers and own prospects. A quick look on SM and you find things like this posted by reasonably educated Russians. There are plenty who side with Ukraine too.
Looks like that first one was posted by a muslamic infidel. He may have been educated but he's certainly not intelligent.
 
Faisal Islam disagrees:
But this is the economic weapon that will most hit the Kremlin. Oil revenues are much more important than gas revenues. There are also other options for the world’s supply of crude oil, stretching from Venezuela to the Gulf.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-europe-60657155
I think the EU makes up a larger proportion of Russia's gas sales than it does oil. That said, I've seen souch data about this recently that I may have mixed that up completely.
 
Easy.

Apparently a fighter jet is to a little Cessna what an F1 car is to a Vauxhall Nova. Cessnas are really easy to fly and on the rare occasions I get to go on an F1 simulator I can almost make the second corner.

Again, man on internet, but is there really that much difference between an M29 and a Typhoon/F16?

These are all mature platforms, 80 odd years into their evolution, physics is the same for everyone, they are going to handle pretty similarly right?

More akin to swapping an F1 car for an Indycar.

It's great that we could make it work, but had we handed over something else the Ukraine Air Force would have been able to handle them I'm sure.
 
I've heard typhoon pilots say how different they are to fly than anything else in the world. They are on a basic level completely unstable, but instead rely on incredible real time computer correcting. So are completely counter-intuitatuve to fly. Something like that anyway
 
Again, man on internet, but is there really that much difference between an M29 and a Typhoon/F16?

These are all mature platforms, 80 odd years into their evolution, physics is the same for everyone, they are going to handle pretty similarly right?

More akin to swapping an F1 car for an Indycar.

It's great that we could make it work, but had we handed over something else the Ukraine Air Force would have been able to handle them I'm sure.

I've heard typhoon pilots say how different they are to fly than anything else in the world. They are mechanically completely unstable but instead rely on real time computer correcting. SOMETHING LIKE that
I believe this is the case, the plane cannot be flown without its computer, rather than just being difficult like its counterparts.

I would expect that learning the limits of various manoeuvres is something pilots would want to work up to slowly without SAMs flying all around them.

To use the F1 analogy again, just look how many drivers struggle to cope with changing teams and there are very few things that can be altered from one car to the next.
 
If you’re young and on western social media you would, as pro Ukrainian sentiment is high. But imagine you’d planned to get a bed from IKEA this weekend for your kid but now couldn’t, you not on international social media seeing bombed residential buildings, and your wife had just been laid off by the international company she worked for. Would you still side with the west?

What if you work for the Kremlin but have young kids who are now tinkled off they can't have their weekend happy meal, sure you tell them its closed and make up some excuse but when its been the same for a few weeks and your kids are in a sulk then they can't have the new iphone for their birthday things begin to bite. Then they kick off when they realise they can't go on their summer holiday because its become too expensive and their bank cards don't work there.

Sanctions are a long game, ultimately a war needs money so anything that helps delay or prevent it is good but I do feel for ordinary Russians who have done nothing wrong, I guess the west are hoping that they're the people who will take umbrage and rise up in enough numbers to affect change.

Really I don't know how western Russia is, do people there regularly shop in western shops, eat McDonalds, buy the latest tech etc or do the majority not really care about those things.
 
What if you work for the Kremlin but have young kids who are now tinkled off they can't have their weekend happy meal, sure you tell them its closed and make up some excuse but when its been the same for a few weeks and your kids are in a sulk then they can't have the new iphone for their birthday things begin to bite. Then they kick off when they realise they can't go on their summer holiday because its become too expensive and their bank cards don't work there.

Sanctions are a long game, ultimately a war needs money so anything that helps delay or prevent it is good but I do feel for ordinary Russians who have done nothing wrong, I guess the west are hoping that they're the people who will take umbrage and rise up in enough numbers to affect change.

Really I don't know how western Russia is, do people there regularly shop in western shops, eat McDonalds, buy the latest tech etc or do the majority not really care about those things.

You've not lived abroad have you? 1st world problems are called that for a reason.
 
What if you work for the Kremlin but have young kids who are now tinkled off they can't have their weekend happy meal, sure you tell them its closed and make up some excuse but when its been the same for a few weeks and your kids are in a sulk then they can't have the new iphone for their birthday things begin to bite. Then they kick off when they realise they can't go on their summer holiday because its become too expensive and their bank cards don't work there.

Sanctions are a long game, ultimately a war needs money so anything that helps delay or prevent it is good but I do feel for ordinary Russians who have done nothing wrong, I guess the west are hoping that they're the people who will take umbrage and rise up in enough numbers to affect change.

Really I don't know how western Russia is, do people there regularly shop in western shops, eat McDonalds, buy the latest tech etc or do the majority not really care about those things.

We holidayed in Russia in 2017, and visited St Petersburg, Moscow, and 4 or 5 other towns/cities across Siberia out to Vladivostok. Everywhere we saw, whilst not necessarily "western", was certainly modern, vibrant, contemporary - I'm struggling to find the right word - not dissimilar to what we would know here, although culturally different of course. I'd imagine anyone living in those places would care about many of the things you mention. But of course there are other, significant, areas of the country that are more rural, or less affluent, with fewer external influences. They too will suffer the knock-on effects of sanctions but may be less caring of those particular services being withdrawn.

As an aside - these events have reminded me of an incident on that trip, on one of the legs of our train journeys where we got talking to one of the few passengers around us who had a smattering of English. He was asking about our travels, where we had been, where we were going, and asked me if we planned to visit Crimea. An easy question to answer, with the correct response being "no" or, more politely, "no, unfortunately we don't have time". However, any alarm bells in my head were silent, and brain and mouth did not engage and the words I actually uttered were "no, we are only visiting Russia this time." To which I received a steely glare and a reminder that "Crimea IS in Russia."
#awkward.
 
You've not lived abroad have you? 1st world problems are called that for a reason.

I've got no idea what you mean? People get accustomed to first world things. Yes it wouldn't be the end of the world but if all those shops, restaurants and services stopped in the UK there'd be riots.

PS I have lived in multiple countries and travelled extensively thank you.
 
I've got no idea what you mean? People get accustomed to first world things. Yes it wouldn't be the end of the world but if all those shops, restaurants and services stopped in the UK there'd be riots.

PS I have lived in multiple countries and travelled extensively thank you.

A lot of the population were brought up in the communist era and after that yeltsin. I doubt not being able to get a happy meal or the new iphone will phase them that much.
They have energy, they have food they have housing.

Like it or not under putin their lives have improved considerably. From wages to life expectancy.
 
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