*** OMT Tottenham v Crystal Palace ***

[glasgowspur]

They wanted it more than us, simple and so fudging damming.
There's some in this squad that don't care.
And there's one claims he wants trophies, ha ha ha

 

[indospurs]

Eh. I'm not too concerned.

I mean, the guy isn't Poch - nowhere near. Poch went down to ten men in his first game against Spam, and we won 1-0 regardless. Not like this.

But I knew that from the start, given that he was the cheap option.

We were up against it today - six starter-level players out, and then a seventh off with injury early, leading to an extremely makeshift backline. We had no one to replace Skipp but Winks, since Tubby has predictably not kept his fitness up enough to be selected.

And of course, once Tanganga went off, the game was up - Davies and Rodon in defense is just asking to leak goals, and so it proved.

We'll have more bad days under the guy, but he can't deal with this level of disruption. To be fair, few managers can.

And today isn't the day to turn on Nuno because we got hammered by a frankly paid-off Jon Moss and Palace. Was it unfortunate? Yes. And it puts us up against it for Chelsea and Arsenal later. But the international break had to have losers, and we were the loser here.

Chin up, dust off, go again next week.

chavs next ? we will get shafted regardless...

 

[Pirate55]

Nuno saying we controlled the first half. What game was he watching ffs.

 

[Modric THFC]

We used the exact same tactics as against Wolves. Sit deep. Narrow midfield. Narrow 3 up front waiting to counter.
That worked because we had the pace of Son and Bergwijn.

I have no idea how Nuno expected this to work with Kane and Alli.

 

[metalgear]

Don't forget Levy's reason for sacking Mourinho... The Spurs DNA

0-3. Their sub scores again. Goes from worse to diabolical. Fine Nuno a months wages. He promised us good attacking football. He isn't delivering. Only two attempts on goal and one on target. He has been shocking and needs to explain himself.

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[metalgear]

Viera...

Embarrassing. Palace first win of the season, had to be us.

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[elyid]

Palace are going to win the league, I'm basing that on the content of this BT Sport tossathon.

Apparantly it’s “The START of the Patrick Viera era…”

presume they must have missed their previous 4 matches, including going out of the league cup lol

 

[DeanoAustin]

True, but not surprising to me. Wolves fans could have told you exactly how he was going to manage us before he took his first training session - sit deep, hit on the break, but with a bit more fitness and control than the abominable Mourinho had.

They also could have told you he's very, very reluctant to use subs or a larger squad, preferring a small squad playing exactly to his style.

This is NES - he doesn't change. We'll have more bad days under him, but also good days like City. And less whining than Mourinho - he'll take it with grace and humility, which I respect.

Will it be enough to get us to the top four? Probably not. But then, we weren't aiming for that anyway - if we were, frankly, we wouldn't have ended up with Nuno in the first place.

So, not that fussed mate. Bad day at the office, write it off and go again.

I don't like it when you're being much more rational than me.

Look fair points but I just don't think he's up to it. I'd hoped he'd be another Jol/Poch/Harry but he won't in my opinion. I'm not expecting top 4 because I think 4 clubs are miles ahead of us. Top 6 and hes doing well. 7th or 8th is below par for me and I think that's where we'll end up at best based on what I've seen so far.

I sincerely hope I'm wrong but we take another beating like that next week and the natives will start getting restless.

 

[metalgear]

Dele?

Also, you have to get the ball to your striker. We play with only cloggers with no creativity in midfield.

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[glasgowspur]

At least the Ronaldo circus will overshadow everything else.

 

[Baleforce]

You could argue if Nuno manages the game better, based on a terrible first half, we don't have to make the second sub and we still have 11 men. That's a very tough judgement but he's at a club now that expects much better than we saw today.

There was nothing on the bench that could have improved us imo.

The players were just brick, you can move the pieces on the chess board around, but if they are all pawns you are fudged.

 

[Pirate55]

I don't like it when you're being much more rational than me.

Look fair points but I just don't think he's up to it. I'd hoped he'd be another Jol/Poch/Harry but he won't in my opinion. I'm not expecting top 4 because I think 4 clubs are miles ahead of us. Top 6 and hes doing well. 7th or 8th is below par for me and I think that's where we'll end up at best based on what I've seen so far.

I sincerely hope I'm wrong but we take another beating like that next week and the natives will start getting restless.

A balanced view. Nuno 0/10 today. Needs to improve his thought process dramatically - and quickly if we are not to be mid table dross.

 

[DubSpur]

Nuno saying we controlled the first half. What game was he watching ffs.

Turned it off once the game was over so didn't see that, but if he really believes that it makes me even more concerned about him

 

[DeanoAustin]

There was nothing on the bench that could have improved us imo.

The players were just brick, you can move the pieces on the chess board around, but if they are all pawns you are fudged.

Maybe. I guess Gil and Ndombele were the obvious choices. An interested Ndombele was exactly what you need but there are issues there that aren't on Nuno to be fair.

Maybe shuffle what's on the pitch though. Not sure how or who but that's what Nuno is being paid for. We were being battered by Palace for Christ sake. That can't be acceptable even with the absentees we had.

 

[metalgear]

+1

Just angry about lots from today, best go and cool off for a few hours.

pffft

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[Nigeyman]

I want to be positive but the thought that we are not going to dominate a midfield battle anytime in the near future means I feel very sad.

As does a striker leading the line who has long since given up on us.

that midfield trio was painful to watch.

 

[Bishop]

I don't want to say I told you do but so many of us were saying exactly what happens if you constantly play with no creativity and no ability to control the pace and tempo of a game by possession.

I hope Nuno learns from today and makes adjustments because playing three cloggers ain't going to work.

 

[DubaiSpur]

chavs next ? we will get shafted regardless...

True, we probably will.

We had a good August, we'll have a crap September. And the next break will come in, NES will change a few things, some players will return, the South American lads will hopefully not be selected (they won't have played for the entire month, but if they still get selected, hopefully we have better mechanisms in place to handle it).

Again, when we appointed NES, we chose the cheap 8th-choice option for the job. We're not getting a revolutionary here, we're getting a decent (if rigid) coach - if you tailor your expectations to that, you'll be less upset about days like this. In the longer run, I expect we'll improve on the Mourinho-led atrocity that was last season and finish 5th or 6th-ish. What I'm looking forward to is less the results, more just seeing kids like Skipp and Tanganga play and seeing guys like Dele come back into form.

That'll do for me, tbh.

 

[Baleforce]

Maybe. I guess Gil and Ndombele were the obvious choices. An interested Ndombele was exactly what you need but there are issues there that aren't on Nuno to be fair.

Maybe shuffle what's on the pitch though. Not sure how or who but that's what Nuno is being paid for. We were being battered by Palace for Christ sake. That can't be acceptable even with the absentees we had.

Ndombele is never what you need, waste of a shirt.

I don’t think it would have been fair to throw any of the kids into that game.

Gil didn’t do much against that Portuguese pub team so I don’t think he’d have been any use today either.

 

[Bullet]

Agreed Bishop, we must have some skill and control, as it forces the other team back and lets us move up the pitch and take a breath, rather than being constantly on the back foot.

I'm surprised Lloris isn't getting pelters, he started the rot today by making Dier go in for a 60:40 challenge full pelt. Idiotic 'pass'.