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[Bedfordspurs]

My opinion is he’d ridden the tackle and escaped with the ball.

See I don’t think he was tackled at all
The player cleared the ball not tackled him

 

[glasgowspur]

Defender touched the ball but greizman was still in controll of it when he was brought down, pen all day long.

 

[Baleforce]

See I don’t think he was tackled at all
The player cleared the ball not tackled him

Knocking it a yard in front of the player you are trying to tackle isn’t really clearing it imo.

 

[StephenH]

Was a pen just.
France were so France and unbelievably poor.

Australia really didn’t threaten.

 

[Bedfordspurs]

Knocking it a yard in front of the player you are trying to tackle isn’t really clearing it imo.

But the ball hitting your foot isn’t control either is it?
Unless he telegraphed where the Australian defender was kicking it in that milli second

 

[milo]

Spot on, i think some are defending VAR because they have made such a song and dance about how it is good for the game.

Isn't that argument only valid if you also accept the same of those constantly criticising it?

 

[Bedfordspurs]

@galeforce you could argue the clearance didn’t clear the ball which is a fair call

Neville is making a fair call... is there a clear error from the ref there? I’d argue no as it’s a debatable call at best hence the arguing now so it shouldn’t have been given retrospectively

 

[Baleforce]

But the ball hitting your foot isn’t control either is it?
Unless he telegraphed where the Australian defender was kicking it in that milli second

No, but what he intended doesn’t matter.

 

[Baleforce]

@galeforce you could argue the clearance didn’t clear the ball which is a fair call

Neville is making a fair call... is there a clear error from the ref there? I’d argue no as it’s a debatable call at best hence the arguing now so it shouldn’t have been given retrospectively

I’d argue yes, as it’s a blatant penalty, but I take your point.

If that incident happens in a Spurs game and we don’t get the pen I’d be furious.

 

[Rorschach]

We could arm robots with cattle prods

Well it worked in Handmaids tale.

 

[parklane1]

Isn't that argument only valid if you also accept the same of those constantly criticising it?

Fair point, however we are led to believe that VAR was going to clear up all the debatable actions and make every thing clear. My point is that it NEVER will be able to do that and this is a prime example.

 

[Bedfordspurs]

No, but what he intended doesn’t matter.

I agree hence my comment he didn’t control the ball, it hit him

 

[parklane1]

I’d argue yes, as it’s a blatant penalty, but I take your point.

If that incident happens in a Spurs game and we don’t get the pen I’d be furious.

What would your opinion be if we lost a cup final on what was a debatable decision.

 

[Jordinho]

Fair point, however we are led to believe that VAR was going to clear up all the debatable actions and make every thing clear. My point is that it NEVER will be able to do that and this is a prime example.

I can't remember hearing or seeing that anywhere. What it will do is reduce the number of wrong calls, but it still involves a human element and it's the decisions they make that cause the problems.

 

[Baleforce]

I agree hence my comment he didn’t control the ball, it hit him

And landed at his feet, in the box, ready to pull the trigger, before he got cleared out by a defender.

 

[Baleforce]

What would your opinion be if we lost a cup final on what was a debatable decision.

I’d be annoyed, I don’t consider this a debatable decision.

 

[Bedfordspurs]

And landed at his feet, in the box, ready to pull the trigger, before he got cleared out by a defender.

But control needs intent

If it hadn’t been touched by the defender I would agree by he had no way of knowing where it was going form the defenders touch and it hit his running leg

 

[parklane1]

I can't remember hearing or seeing that anywhere. What it will do is reduce the number of wrong calls, but it still involves a human element and it's the decisions they make that cause the problems.

Really?, so it will ( in your opinion) end the number of wrong calls, no much point if it also creates a situation ( like todays) that was a wrong decision.

 

[Bedfordspurs]

I’d be annoyed, I don’t consider this a debatable decision.

But the fact that we are, and the press are, and social media are debating it says it is surely....

 

[parklane1]

I’d be annoyed, I don’t consider this a debatable decision.

Not doubting your word mate but i would imagine this place and other Spurs fans would be up in arms if we lost to what was not a Pen.