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***OMT Tottenham Hotspur FC vs Huddersfield Town FC ***

thfcsteff said:
I am going to guess they worked on this during training leading up to the match.



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Don't be silly! Don't you know (according to some) training time is absolutely finite and therefore we couldn't possibly work on such mundanities. File "throw-ins" along with other things such as "corners", "free-kicks" and "kick-offs" as not nearly enough goals result from them and therefore they cannot possibly be "prioritised".
 
Pirate55 said:
Don't be silly! Don't you know (according to some) training time is absolutely finite and therefore we couldn't possibly work on such mundanities. File "throw-ins" along with other things such as "corners", "free-kicks" and "kick-offs" as not nearly enough goals result from them and therefore they cannot possibly be "prioritised".
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Just to be clear on terms... If training time isn't finite that would make it infinite?

Here I was thinking that a lack of time on the training ground was a common experience for PL managers in a busy season. Turns out it's not even finite. Someone call a mathematician, this seems strange.
 
Another point. Pochettino has 18 years as a professional footballer behind him. Including playing under the legendary Bielsa.

He's closing in on 10 years as a top league manger. He's had success in two leagues and three clubs. I'd wager both clubs he's left would be delighted to have him back and we'd obviously love to keep him long term. That can't be said of many managers.

Of his primary success factors what's done one the training ground is frequently brought up for good reasons. He's famous for developing players. His player development has essentially helped feed half a generation of English internationals. He's renowned for getting players in great shape physically and developing a strong mentality. All whilst keeping a very high squad morale and a fantastic loyalty to him and the club. To the point of most players not angling for moves that would double their wages.

This is a direct result of the decisions he makes about how and how much our players should train. In addition to that he obviously also knows the details about how and how much the players actually train, information we simply don't have.

I'm not claiming that Pochettino gets every decision right. But when someone claims that they know how he should change or tweak his approach to training with us. Either the way it's done or amount that's done, despite knowing a small glimpse of what he knows about how we actually do things, and despite having at best a fraction of his experience and record of success, I have a hard time believing that to be a good idea. And that's a strong understatement.

This to me is self evident. About as self evident as the simple fact that training time is finite.
 
It is often said that the best players will go back out after training and do some extra training with the ball, finishing drills etc. so it would seem perfectly possible to ask players to train for an extra half hour on something
 
It is nice to continue our winning run at Wembley. We are now unbeaten in 17 matches in all competitions and amazingly this is our longest unbeaten run since 1967. We do need to be more ruthless in front of goal though. We dominated the match and should have scored more goals, especially Kane. Even at 2-0, we needed the magical 3rd goal to kill the game off but we failed to get that. We would have been under pressure if Huddersfield had managed to get 1 goal but fortunately they didn't have many chances. We seemed to slow down after scoring our second goal.

Credit to Son for scoring both our goals. He needed those goals after not scoring in his last 5 league matches. Wish Kane had scored at least 1 goal. Kane did well to assist Son's second goal with an inch perfect cross but this win feels incomplete without Kane scoring. For some reason, Kane does not look at his best in recent matches. He had 3 chances to score but failed to make use of them. Hope he will get back his best form soon. Alli assisted the first goal but he has now gone 14 matches without scoring, including 8 league matches. Remember, Alli scored 18 league goals last season but has scored only 5 goals so far this season. Eriksen had a quiet game while Lamela and Moura didn't have much time to make an impact after coming on in the second half.

Our midfield of Dembele and Dier did their part to control the midfield. They didn't really need to to be at their best as Huddersfield were poor for most of the match. It is good that we have many options in midfield now but Sissoko didn't have much impact after coming on. Wish Sissoko will lift his game in the remaining matches of the season.

Credit to our defence for keeping this clean sheet. Good to see Vertonghen returning from injury to partner Sanchez in defence. They were not troubled by Huddersfield much even if there were a few tense moments. Wish we would avoid those unnecessary back passes to Lloris which always seems risky. Aurier needs special mention for having an error free match.

This win would have been more enjoyable if Kane had scored to stay ahead in the top scorers race with Salah. We do need him to get back his goal scoring boot soon. Let's hope we will continue this winning run for all the remaining matches of the season.
 
Spurs7891 said:
It is nice to continue our winning run at Wembley. We are now unbeaten in 17 matches in all competitions and amazingly this is our longest unbeaten run since 1967. We do need to be more ruthless in front of goal though. We dominated the match and should have scored more goals, especially Kane. Even at 2-0, we needed the magical 3rd goal to kill the game off but we failed to get that. We would have been under pressure if Huddersfield had managed to get 1 goal but fortunately they didn't have many chances. We seemed to slow down after scoring our second goal.

Credit to Son for scoring both our goals. He needed those goals after not scoring in his last 5 league matches. Wish Kane had scored at least 1 goal. Kane did well to assist Son's second goal with an inch perfect cross but this win feels incomplete without Kane scoring. For some reason, Kane does not look at his best in recent matches. He had 3 chances to score but failed to make use of them. Hope he will get back his best form soon. Alli assisted the first goal but he has now gone 14 matches without scoring, including 8 league matches. Remember, Alli scored 18 league goals last season but has scored only 5 goals so far this season. Eriksen had a quiet game while Lamela and Moura didn't have much time to make an impact after coming on in the second half.

Our midfield of Dembele and Dier did their part to control the midfield. They didn't really need to to be at their best as Huddersfield were poor for most of the match. It is good that we have many options in midfield now but Sissoko didn't have much impact after coming on. Wish Sissoko will lift his game in the remaining matches of the season.

Credit to our defence for keeping this clean sheet. Good to see Vertonghen returning from injury to partner Sanchez in defence. They were not troubled by Huddersfield much even if there were a few tense moments. Wish we would avoid those unnecessary back passes to Lloris which always seems risky. Aurier needs special mention for having an error free match.

This win would have been more enjoyable if Kane had scored to stay ahead in the top scorers race with Salah. We do need him to get back his goal scoring boot soon. Let's hope we will continue this winning run for all the remaining matches of the season.
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Your 2nd paragraph always starts with credit, doesn't it?
I like it.
 
braineclipse said:
Another point. Pochettino has 18 years as a professional footballer behind him. Including playing under the legendary Bielsa.

He's closing in on 10 years as a top league manger. He's had success in two leagues and three clubs. I'd wager both clubs he's left would be delighted to have him back and we'd obviously love to keep him long term. That can't be said of many managers.

Of his primary success factors what's done one the training ground is frequently brought up for good reasons. He's famous for developing players. His player development has essentially helped feed half a generation of English internationals. He's renowned for getting players in great shape physically and developing a strong mentality. All whilst keeping a very high squad morale and a fantastic loyalty to him and the club. To the point of most players not angling for moves that would double their wages.

This is a direct result of the decisions he makes about how and how much our players should train. In addition to that he obviously also knows the details about how and how much the players actually train, information we simply don't have.

I'm not claiming that Pochettino gets every decision right. But when someone claims that they know how he should change or tweak his approach to training with us. Either the way it's done or amount that's done, despite knowing a small glimpse of what he knows about how we actually do things, and despite having at best a fraction of his experience and record of success, I have a hard time believing that to be a good idea. And that's a strong understatement.

This to me is self evident. About as self evident as the simple fact that training time is finite.
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I think you have a problem with definition of "finite". Is finite, say 10am to 2pm i.e. 4 hours. What if, this is stretched to 5 hours? Is that by your definition " infinite" ? Obviously it isn't.

Furthermore, there are many clips of players "messing around" doing things like nutmegs or crossbar challenges. Is this part of your "finite" training program? There is a massive gulf between something being strictly "finite" and infinite.

No-one, as far as I am aware, ( and certainly not me) claims to know more about football than Poch. However, even Poch has admitted that there is always room for improvement and he is constantly striving for perfection. Therefore, he himself is not averse to learning. Others have different opinions on various matters. The sign of a great manager is that he continues to listen, learn and adapt. It could be argued that Wenger's recent failings are that he has stopped listening and learning and continues in his stubborn ways.

That Poch is prepared to continue to strive to improve is to his great credit and makes him the manager he is. Ghod forbid he stops listening and becomes like Wenger. The only thing I can think of that may potentially make this happen is if everyone tells him he is right about everything and, on any SWOT analysis, the "W" column is left empty.
Football is about opinions, it is not an exact science and no-one has all the answers.
 
Pirate55 said:
I think you have a problem with definition of "finite". Is finite, say 10am to 2pm i.e. 4 hours. What if, this is stretched to 5 hours? Is that by your definition " infinite" ? Obviously it isn't.

Furthermore, there are many clips of players "messing around" doing things like nutmegs or crossbar challenges. Is this part of your "finite" training program? There is a massive gulf between something being strictly "finite" and infinite.

No-one, as far as I am aware, ( and certainly not me) claims to know more about football than Poch. However, even Poch has admitted that there is always room for improvement and he is constantly striving for perfection. Therefore, he himself is not averse to learning. Others have different opinions on various matters. The sign of a great manager is that he continues to listen, learn and adapt. It could be argued that Wenger's recent failings are that he has stopped listening and learning and continues in his stubborn ways.

That Poch is prepared to continue to strive to improve is to his great credit and makes him the manager he is. Ghod forbid he stops listening and becomes like Wenger. The only thing I can think of that may potentially make this happen is if everyone tells him he is right about everything and, on any SWOT analysis, the "W" column is left empty.
Football is about opinions, it is not an exact science and no-one has all the answers.
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A lot of posters on here cant handle any criticism directed at Poch, yet I doubt there is anyone more critical of him than the great man himself....
 
nayimfromthehalfwayline said:
I dont think its that people cant handle criticism of him at all.

Rather that cant handle a complete lack of perspective/priority in some posters get rather hysterical criticism.
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That last sentence doesn't make sense.

In any event, where is this "hysterical criticism " you speak of?
 
Pirate55 said:
I think you have a problem with definition of "finite". Is finite, say 10am to 2pm i.e. 4 hours. What if, this is stretched to 5 hours? Is that by your definition " infinite" ? Obviously it isn't.

Furthermore, there are many clips of players "messing around" doing things like nutmegs or crossbar challenges. Is this part of your "finite" training program? There is a massive gulf between something being strictly "finite" and infinite.

No-one, as far as I am aware, ( and certainly not me) claims to know more about football than Poch. However, even Poch has admitted that there is always room for improvement and he is constantly striving for perfection. Therefore, he himself is not averse to learning. Others have different opinions on various matters. The sign of a great manager is that he continues to listen, learn and adapt. It could be argued that Wenger's recent failings are that he has stopped listening and learning and continues in his stubborn ways.

That Poch is prepared to continue to strive to improve is to his great credit and makes him the manager he is. Ghod forbid he stops listening and becomes like Wenger. The only thing I can think of that may potentially make this happen is if everyone tells him he is right about everything and, on any SWOT analysis, the "W" column is left empty.
Football is about opinions, it is not an exact science and no-one has all the answers.
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So, err, trust him? Because I "think" he knows what he's doing - even when he's "learning" what more he can do. Right?!!!!!!!
 
harr1984 said:
A lot of posters on here cant handle any criticism directed at Poch, yet I doubt there is anyone more critical of him than the great man himself....
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You know what? This makes me laugh.
I will speak for myself. This is EXACTLY what I have said in the past when I have gone on to make the point that he has more than earned the right to be trusted.I have repeatedly pointed out that he has proven he learns from things, and as such he deserves to be trusted. Criticism? Fine. But it is the assumption of some (notably Pirate and sometimes you) that he has blind-spots or "does not practice things in training" which is frankly laughable.
 
thfcsteff said:
You know what? This makes me laugh.
I will speak for myself. This is EXACTLY what I have said in the past when I have gone on to make the point that he has more than earned the right to be trusted.I have repeatedly pointed out that he has proven he learns from things, and as such he deserves to be trusted. Criticism? Fine. But it is the assumption of some (notably Pirate and sometimes you) that he has blind-spots or "does not practice things in training" which is frankly laughable.
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I’m just saying what I’ve seen - I’ve witnessed myself and a few other posters criticise Poch for very specific things that he has got wrong. In return you get a lecture saying how brilliant Poch has been for Spurs. Who the hell said he hasn’t been? Does that mean we’re not allowed to ever criticise or question elements of what he does? He’s not perfect, he hasn’t won a single trophy as a manager yet so he isn’t beyond criticism despite the good things he continues to do. Like I said he will undoubtedly be his own worse critic so I don’t see why fans can’t question certain decisions he makes...
 
harr1984 said:
I’m just saying what I’ve seen - I’ve witnessed myself and a few other posters criticise Poch for very specific things that he has got wrong. In return you get a lecture saying how brilliant Poch has been for Spurs. Who the hell said he hasn’t been? Does that mean we’re not allowed to ever criticise or question elements of what he does? He’s not perfect, he hasn’t won a single trophy as a manager yet so he isn’t beyond criticism despite the good things he continues to do. Like I said he will undoubtedly be his own worse critic so I don’t see why fans can’t question certain decisions he makes...
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You are, indeed, saying what "you've" seen. Which is vastly different to what has been written.
 
i remember worrying about playing these games, not so much a banana skin, but creating a hatful chances of chances for it to be a 0-0, no-one had any doubt we were going to coast this one, we never got out of 2nd gear, everyone will be ready for the main course on wednesday, huddersfield didnt lie down like chelsea did against Emirates Marketing Project but we held them at arms length throughout, its what top teams do.
 
Personally I cant stand that Poch doesnt wear silly outfit, rarely runs up and down the touchline as if his pants were on fire, never wears a baseball cap, doesnt scream at the fourth offical, doesnt pull weird faces or make ridiculous comments in interviews.
 
K.D.D.D.D.Soc said:
Personally I cant stand that Poch doesnt wear silly outfit, rarely runs up and down the touchline as if his pants were on fire, never wears a baseball cap, doesnt scream at the fourth offical, doesnt pull weird faces or make ridiculous comments in interviews.
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I agree Pochettino's gurning is tinkle poor!
 
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