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Is this a fancier version of the Redknapp era?

Discussion in 'Spurs News & Views' started by thfcsteff, 17 Sep 2020.

  1. glorygloryeze

    glorygloryeze Jimmy McCormick

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    If Jose can improve in-game decision-making that could be quite a coup that could last for years amongst the squad, even beyond his tenure.

    Nothing wrong with a dream is there?
     
  2. ricky2tricky4city

    ricky2tricky4city Pedro Mendes

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    It looks like we'll have 7 (should be 8 with Sess) new starters since last summer, we should well and truly be moving on from the Poch era.

    Don't really agree with the physical toll you suggest with Sonny Dele Lucas...Im not seeing that with those 3
     
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  3. Bedfordspurs

    Bedfordspurs Terry Dyson

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    Surely it’s a multitude of things
    We have human beings for a start
    Younger players are now older
    New signings haven’t settled
    Older players are now very old
    Not enough in one position but too many in others
    Change of ideas and ideals (multiple times)
    A change in the level of player we were aiming for, which being additional expectations
    New ground, new church, same GHod (sorry for any religious people)
    Legacies of old managers
    Legacies of new manager (with other clubs)
    If you could predict and manage all these things you would be a genius or playing Football Manager
     
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  4. Hashegotthesackyet?

    Hashegotthesackyet? Goran Bunjevcevic

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    It’s all relative: we paid the others millions/year to achieve and the last one was Ramos...
    Jose has won trophies...some of them possibly by the skin of his teeth. Tonight we won by the skin of our teeth.
    Injuries aside, there’s been a brick load of mental fragility within the squad. I’m no psychotherapist but I would imagine that to change the mindset of the bulk of a team is not an overnight process, there will be some inertia that people need to reverse.
    Let’s give him the season and judge then, not just him but the overall running of the club; for good or for bad.
     
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  5. LemonadeMoney

    LemonadeMoney Paul Robinson

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    Redknapp had a much more balanced team.
     
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  6. Robspur12

    Robspur12 Vedran Corluka

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    He had the best balanced team of all the managers we have had since 2004. He was great at building teams but not so good at the in game tactics. Mourinho seems to be much more meticulous with the planning and generally better with changing things in game.
     
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  7. Baleforce

    Baleforce Fanny Walden

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    I don’t recall us owning 7 left backs?
     
  8. Yiddo

    Yiddo Terry Venables

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    We played some of the best football i have ever seen a Spurs side play under Redknapp.
     
  9. glasgowspur

    glasgowspur Nick Barmby

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    There isn't one reason or one person solely to blame for our problems.
    And there isn't one easy fix either.
     
  10. Bishop

    Bishop Goran Bunjevcevic

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    Although without a world class striker.

    Harry's team with Kane in it would have won something, that was final missing piece.
     
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  11. Bedfordspurs

    Bedfordspurs Terry Dyson

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    That’s the key
    It’s nit cheap age one thing
    It’s adapt to the circumstances as they change and stick together to overcome them
    I do want that siege meteorology back, the “them and us”
     
  12. Mosquito_Coasting

    Mosquito_Coasting Steve Hodge

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    Feel like we had more forward momentum in the Redknapp era, on and off the pitch.
     
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  13. Bedfordspurs

    Bedfordspurs Terry Dyson

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    Not sure about anything off the pitch
     
  14. El Guepardo

    El Guepardo Paul Robinson

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    So instead we signed Saha and Nelsen. That window was a disaster given where we were before the window, what potential we had, and where we then finished the season.
     
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  15. metalgear

    metalgear Christian Ziege

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    For 70 minutes. Last 20 were always nail biting white knuckled finishes. I was younger then but felt watching spurs under redknapp was taking years out of my life. Jol too.
    Sent from my SM-G985F using glory-glory.co.uk mobile app
     
  16. DubaiSpur

    DubaiSpur Jimmy McCormick

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    70 minutes? Rose-tinted glasses, I suspect. :p

    Personally, I always dreaded going in at half-time less than 2-0 up, because I knew we'd come out for the second half an increasingly tired, increasingly desperate side. Those brilliant first halves where we flew out of the gates and absolutely blasted away the opposition came at a cost, and we usually saw that cost right after half-time when everyone from Real Madrid to Wigan Athletic would start bossing our lads as we fell further and further back. :p
     
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  17. thfcsteff

    thfcsteff Les Howe Staff Member

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    First off, thanks to Milo again for having planted the thought out there (he reminded me that he had made an identical point before this thread...it just took me time to cotton on)...

    Secondly, I am loving this conversation, really interesting. It has actually got me thinking about things from another perspective...football intelligence. Given that Mourinho has, by general agreement, not much of a structured tactical attacking plan and likes the players up there to express themselves, are they simply not quite as smart as we might've thought? Lucas is obviously not, but is Sonny perhaps not quite as astute/guile-laden as we might've thought? Is Dele not quite as smart as he thinks he is? Is it really the case that Eriksen -who did make us tick- was the most football intelligent player we had? Is this why we have largely struggled along with Mourinho, because the standard of smart he requires is not quite there?

    I don't know, I have to think about it, but the question is worth throwing out there, because I cannot believe some of the non-runs I am seeing given the players we have?
     
  18. 90291Spur

    90291Spur Steffen Iversen

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    If only we had that Modric metronome making us tick. I recall that he was often the pass BEFORE the assist. Maybe GLC will be that guy. Whom knows? The thing is, Harry APPEARED to be the crafty roosterney geezer, and seemed to be likable. I can't say the same about Jose. And as @metalgear said above, we played some scintillating footy under Redknapp. And we did show flashes of steel, even in defeat (4-3 at the San Siro, anybody?). And we showed the ability to implode (Real Madrid that same season). Hopefully Jose can do something, but I am doubtful, as the game has moved on and hoping to beat the likes of Leicester playing on the break is a risky strategy.
     
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  19. Bedfordspurs

    Bedfordspurs Terry Dyson

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    I flagged the lack of playing intelligence up a few months back. It was a Harry brooks the coach who raised it in a podcast
    He thought it applied to son and Moura for sure, in that they need to told what to do. They can play instinctively but their actual runs and “strategy” had to be coached and taught
    Dele he said played like a street footballer
    Kane he was the smartest guy out there
     
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  20. DeanoAustin

    DeanoAustin Dean Austin

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    Son is an interesting one. I love him and think he’s a great player and great lad. But he does frustrate sometimes. It always amazes me that he’s never seriously linked with a move anywhere let alone to one of the big boys.

    Is that because clubs and managers see something in him that they don’t fancy? Is it because Sonny himself just wants to play for us? Is there some sort of bias at play because he’s Asian and there have been few Asian success stories in the big European leagues? I can’t make sense of it.
     
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