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Eric Dier

Discussion in 'Spurs News & Views' started by Jordinho, 31 Jul 2014.

  1. DTA

    DTA Steed Malbranque

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    Questions and detail... Brexiters don't really like that. Just believe in Britain... And the unicorns will sort the rest :)
     
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  2. 90291Spur

    90291Spur Frederic Kanoute

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    Especially accompanied by a nicely thrown milkshake.
     
  3. Danishfurniturelover

    Danishfurniturelover Cecil Poynton

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    Happy to oblige, you might need to have a word with some of the school kids though.
     
  4. ricky2tricky4city

    ricky2tricky4city Vedran Corluka

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    What a dier conversation anyway.
     
  5. elltrev

    elltrev Naybet

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    Just came across this for Dier, and wondered in particular what @scaramanga's view of it would be?! Given your love of Statsbomb and praise of Dier's passing. (Appreciate that it's a very small sample size and from a season where everyone agrees Dier wasn't at his best, but I'd be interested to see if you use that to discount these stats altogether).

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    I'm not trying to bash Dier here - I love the guy - just disagree with Scara and others who think his passing is particularly progressive, and anyone who thinks he's a midfield enforcer. And I find stats interesting (I know some others don't!)
     
  6. metalgear

    metalgear Johnny Morrison

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    I like those stats they support my viewthat we need a better footballer there, though he's a really nice guy and team player

    Sent from my SM-T835 using glory-glory.co.uk mobile app
     
  7. scaramanga

    scaramanga Erik Thorstvedt Staff Member

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    I think this is entirely the wrong year to use for those stats.

    When using these in the past I've always used each player's best year (this for Sissoko, 16-17 for Dembele, etc) so that we can see what they are capable of.

    If you're using those stats to show that an unfit Dier isn't much of a player then I'll agree with you and raise you a Harry Kane.
     
  8. elltrev

    elltrev Naybet

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    Yeah frustratingly that's the only radar on Dier I could find. Any idea whether a member of the public can pay Statsbomb to access their data? From their website I couldn't find a way. Might email them.
     
  9. scaramanga

    scaramanga Erik Thorstvedt Staff Member

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    I've not been able to find it. The suggestion is that the cost would be far too prohibitive for mere mortals.

    I've been after some decent Dier data for a while because he's about the only one of our players that hasn't has the full statistical analysis applied.

    Edit:. Whilst not nearly as relevant or measured, Dier shows up very well on the Squawka comparison against our other midfielders when you select his best against theirs.
     
  10. the dza

    the dza Christian Ziege

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    I wonder if Dier will end up as the Toby replacement.
     
  11. Alaric

    Alaric Noé Pamarot

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    I saw in the Marcus Edwards article that he mentioned that Eric Dier had helped him when he was training with the first team and I recall that he did the same with Dele when he first joined (and the bromance ensued). I hope he can get back to full fitness, as he strikes me as a good character to have around the team.
     
  12. DeanoAustin

    DeanoAustin Kasey Keller

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    If he’s to make it at Spurs, this is where he’ll make it because he’s not a good midfielder.
     
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    Gazza Dazzla Chris Armstrong

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    Complete opposite for me, he’s an average CB but an excellant CM on form and fit, as we quite clearly saw in his first couple of seasons with us, hence him getting picked for England there.

    He had an average season pre World Cup and last season is obviously a write off through injury and illness.
     
  14. DeanoAustin

    DeanoAustin Kasey Keller

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    England have a dearth of good midfielders. That’s why Jordan Henderson keeps getting picked. England also has a habit of ignoring good ball players in the middle of the park. I hope Winks doesn’t end up in the same bucket as Hoddle and Carrick.

    Dier is limited in midfield. The fact he has mistakes in his game makes him a worry at centre back but if he can work them out, the future looks bright with him, Foyth and Sanchez.
     
  15. scaramanga

    scaramanga Erik Thorstvedt Staff Member

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    The short memories of many Spurs fans continues to astound me.
     
  16. 90291Spur

    90291Spur Frederic Kanoute

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    Why does it astound you? Surely by this time in your life you’re used to the incompetence, foolishness, fripperies and peccadilloes of the mere mortals who roam free to spout their frothy opinions.
     
  17. Raziel

    Raziel Steve Carr

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    He is a good character no question, his other big attribute is flexibility (Poch loves a player that can play multiple roles)

    As other have said, coming off easily his worse season for Spurs, on a normal transfer window I could see us looking at options, but we have so many other deals to do, he's probably comfortable for another season.

    However if someone made a big enough offer (United), I wouldn't be surprised to see the club sell (or Dier take the offer)
     
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  18. scaramanga

    scaramanga Erik Thorstvedt Staff Member

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    Just an eternal optimist I suppose. People are constantly a disappointment though.
     
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    P.D. Milija Aleksic

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    Probably end up in the O'Shea role, good player who's dependable but just not quite at the right level but useful to keep and trusted to start 25-30 games a season across multiple positions.
     
  20. Robspur12

    Robspur12 Mitchell Thomas

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    I want Dier to stay. He embodies Poch's revolution as much as Kane. But I want to see him return to Centre back and continue his development there.
     

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