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Coronavirus

Discussion in 'Randomination' started by markysimmo, 27 Feb 2020.

  1. Diamond Lights

    Diamond Lights Peter Taylor

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    It's as essential now as it was back in the Summer... still don't see it functioning!!
     
  2. LutonSpurs

    LutonSpurs Eric Dear

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    Its absolutely essential we assume nothing for the sake of preservation of life.
     
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    Mikey10 Ruel Fox

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    I really hope you’re right. Fingers crossed.
     
  4. Danishfurniturelover

    Danishfurniturelover the prettiest spice girl

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    My brother in law is not allowed to visit in a respite care where he is actually dieing because the local hospital is full.

    They said only one person was allowed in and that was my brother in laws own brother. He was also told he can only go to a funeral if the was only 6 there.

    It is a sickening situation.
     
  5. Danishfurniturelover

    Danishfurniturelover the prettiest spice girl

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    He is a very odd human being and should be no where near a position of power.

    He is also very creepy around women.
     
  6. scaramanga

    scaramanga Ralph Coates Staff Member

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    If those assumptions carry no cost, yes.
     
  7. scaramanga

    scaramanga Ralph Coates Staff Member

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    COVID-19 would be very unusual if I'm not.

    The results of the SIREN study were released this morning. They tested a lot of front line health workers and had around 6.5K infected. Of those only 2 have been confirmed with reinfections. Neither have been reported to have symptoms.
     
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    Mikey10 Ruel Fox

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    I saw that. Really good news.
     
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  9. SteveAWOL

    SteveAWOL Cecil Poynton

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    Alright for some...

     
  10. P.D.

    P.D. Chris Armstrong

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    Daughter had her regular vaccinations this week and now nursery have sent her home due to the fever they cause, understandable but annoying. Luckily they told us late afternoon yesterday and managed to get a test booked the same evening, got myself tested as well. Pretty smooth but the staff there are casual to say the least - supposed to check the swab has been taken properly (not sure how), didn't even look before saying it's fine.

    Must say seeing your child go redder and redder while you're jabbing a swab up their nose is pretty horrible.
     
  11. Diamond Lights

    Diamond Lights Peter Taylor

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    But UAE (not sure of India) are vaccinating using the Chinese Sinovax (?) i believe and stats for those yesterday believe a 51% efficacy.
     
  12. elyid

    elyid Tim Sherwood

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    Reading through the thread it sounds like the vaccine is just a carrot to get their members to pay for a £40k one month holiday in Dubai!

    (Yes it says Sinovax and Pfizer)

    Each UK attendee is one less for the NHS though.
     
  13. Diamond Lights

    Diamond Lights Peter Taylor

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    Maybe, those people will still be invited to take a vaccine in UK though, so bit of a stretch to assume they won't take those vaccines too upon offer.

    Also, feel we shouldn't be vaccinating those who have caught COVID already, at least early on. If 2M have confirmed had COVID, then vaccinating them is less important than vaccinating 2M others who haven't had it. Won't happen but makes sense to do it that way in a perfect world. Unforunately no official records of who has covid and who hasn't in majority of cases (i.e. Mass Testing doesn't record your NHS number)
     
  14. scaramanga

    scaramanga Ralph Coates Staff Member

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    Probably too many false positives on a standard test.

    We absolutely should be testing but might need something more reliable if we're using it to filter vaccinations.
     
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    Dicko Teemu Tainio

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    Are we ramping up yet? It feels like we are not moving that fast but when you compare to the rest of Europe we are miles ahead with our 3mill already given the first dose.
     
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    monkeybarry Nick Barmby

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    I remember one of the prominent scientists (maybe Chris whitty) saying anything above 50% is normal for most vaccines.

    No quite sure how they correlates to the 90% - presumably the 90% helps the body more, but isn't "40% better"
     
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    ricky2tricky4city Paul Robinson

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    The T-Cell B-Cell test is the only one that would provide an accurate picture. Time and cost wll never make this possible.
     
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    Glenda's Legs Pat van den Hauwe

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    South America travel ban over Brazil variant fears
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-55666198

    Given so many flights from South America go via Madrid and other European hubs, I wonder what measures the government will have in place to cover those taking indirect flights?
    Anyone who saw Boris in front of the Liaison Select Committee yesterday will have witnessed his total inability to answer questions about the lack of measures in place to deal with people arriving on indirect flights from South Africa - almost as if he didn't realise you could do that.
     
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    ricky2tricky4city Paul Robinson

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    Quite simply. We are all in a foot race between the virus getting you and getting a needle in your arm.

    Don't think any barriers, rules, initiatives, guidance is going to be forthcoming at this stage, not from this goverment.

    We are left to look after ourselves and nearest and dearest, but d'you know what?, with our sensible head on we can all do that.
     
  20. LutonSpurs

    LutonSpurs Eric Dear

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    There is a cost. You know I won't argue that. But medical advice can't be made on assumptions unfortunately. Especially when we know so little about the new variants. And I do think the science would strongly suggest it is going to be around a year and even after reinfection will only be mild. With the vaccination and large amount of folk who have had it we will see good herd immunity by May is my view.
     
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