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Coronavirus

Discussion in 'Randomination' started by markysimmo, 27 Feb 2020.

  1. Mikey10

    Mikey10 Roman Pavlyuchenko

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    Sage advise. They don’t formulate plans or policy. It’s not their job to come up with a plan to shield the vulnerable. It’s the government’s, should they wish to pursue that route.

    The fact that they (nor the alternative Sage) haven’t suggested it as a viable route - nor, to my knowledge, has any country anywhere in the world desperately searching for an answer attempted to do it - tells me everything I need to know.
     
  2. awesome dawson

    awesome dawson Milija Aleksic

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    Care to explain how you see proper shielding happening without a lockdown? i.e a prevalent virus running free.
     
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  3. Legohamster

    Legohamster Jimmy Neighbour

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    Govs are not going to change approach now, imagine the fall out

    lockdowns have been hit and miss at best - Australia and New Zealand are in the back end of nowhere - whilst Peru has the worst record.
     
  4. Legohamster

    Legohamster Jimmy Neighbour

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    for a start

    we have wasted billions on track and trace and other items so we had money to do it

    you don’t allow care workers to work in more than one care home and stay on site when possible

    You test workers daily

    you test hospital workers daily

    you support those finically that have an at risk family member

    You stop sending covid patients back to care homes

    It’s not rocket science is it?
     
  5. awesome dawson

    awesome dawson Milija Aleksic

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    None of those measures worked in Melbourne so I’d suggest it’s not that simple.
     
  6. Grays_1890

    Grays_1890 Nick Barmby

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    But the majority of countries doing a good job are far outweighed by those doing a poor one. Additionally those that have done well done so before the horse had bolted, we are beyond that and we need to make a serious decision.

    More and more Drs are saying we cant have a Covid health service and the last lockdown did not help clear the backlogs. One specialist on Sky News earlier said they have told patients that they were going to get treatment once lockdown was lifted and now look like liars and now have to have the same conversation with people on why they cant have life saving treatment.

    So it will get to a point that for the UK where they are going to have to strike a balance. You cant just tell people that there is no hope for treatment whilst telling others there is or vice versa. So with our situation we may have to look at a plan C like mentioned yesterday.

    Whatever happens the damage somewhere is going to be substantial we have to decide where that damage sits and for how long.
     
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  7. scaramanga

    scaramanga Teddy Sheringham Staff Member

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    Why is everything the government's job?

    Maybe they can come round and wipe your arse for you. Run the vacuum cleaner round whilst they're there?
     
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  8. Yiddo

    Yiddo Paul Stalteri

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    Sounds like you would fit in well in the house of commons.
     
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  9. Grays_1890

    Grays_1890 Nick Barmby

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    Not just the Glory Glory 5 saying this then ey

     
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  10. Legohamster

    Legohamster Jimmy Neighbour

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    Seems Australia had a lack of PPE?

    Something funding would help with
     
  11. scaramanga

    scaramanga Teddy Sheringham Staff Member

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    I couldn't work for that salary or for the ungrateful clams many of them have to represent.
     
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  12. Mikey10

    Mikey10 Roman Pavlyuchenko

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    Lol.


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  13. awesome dawson

    awesome dawson Milija Aleksic

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    Don't know about PPE to be honest, I went for one Covid test and it was incredibly well run, free and quick (less than 24 hours for the text results). Be surprised if they couldn't organise the hygiene standards, gloves, masks etc for aged care workers. My take on it is that once the cat is out the bag it's extremely difficult to reign it in. Privatisation of the aged care system here also didn't help, in the 90's they allowed the sector to be profit run/greedy companies etc. Once the State Gov took over the reigns in around July they seemed to get on top of things. Not sure who runs care homes in the UK but you wouldn't think they're well placed to deal with this Covid situation.
     
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  14. Bedfordspurs

    Bedfordspurs George Hunt

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    Mostly private organisations. Even the ones people think are council run are generally private
    There also nearly all full so there isn’t the capacity to move people around if an infection is found
    And then add in the assumption that it’s not the private enterprises responsibility but the governments and it’s a car crash again
     
  15. awesome dawson

    awesome dawson Milija Aleksic

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    Plus it's a growing hunk of burning love with the increasingly ageing population.
     
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  16. scaramanga

    scaramanga Teddy Sheringham Staff Member

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    Anyone who doesn't believe in a nanny state and thinks MPs are paid a pittance for the brick they have to deal with is a troll?

    Seems a little out there for a basis of opinion, even for a dyed in the wool union type.
     
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    SteveAWOL Paul Walsh

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    After those doom monger headlines following Imperial’s antibody paper on Monday, rather more auspicious news on the antibody front from an American study...

     
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    SteveAWOL Paul Walsh

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    Legohamster Jimmy Neighbour

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    we have spent millions on covid hospitals in the form of nightingales.

    whilst not ideal, we have spaces to move people if need be.
     

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