Rorschach
Sonny Walters
It was a low point at Spurs when we had a linesman as our manager.With Ange it feels, to me, like a return to a composite of Jol, 'Arry, and Poch...
PS I'm still pretty dog dirt at Photoshop...
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Welcome Ange: To Dare is to Didgeridoo
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Baleforce
Ron Henry
and Defoe was still getting caught offside
Rorschach
Sonny Walters
He lived offside.
metalgear
Nayim
I am glad we lost. Or to put it more PC better we find out which players will struggle with Angebal earlier than later. Most of the players had the same time in pre season so no excuses.
We've fixed our first team but now we need to rebuild the bench.
Lots of players who started are not good enough or right for posteball. It will take time and Jan transfer the window can't come soon enough.
Levy needs to back Ange and if anything i am glad we can clearly see the rebuild is only halfway through, we don't have quality depth and any talk of winning anything or challenging top four is premature. Despite the excellent results and entertaining style.
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We've fixed our first team but now we need to rebuild the bench.
Lots of players who started are not good enough or right for posteball. It will take time and Jan transfer the window can't come soon enough.
Levy needs to back Ange and if anything i am glad we can clearly see the rebuild is only halfway through, we don't have quality depth and any talk of winning anything or challenging top four is premature. Despite the excellent results and entertaining style.
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DubaiSpur
Ian Walker
Nope. Lost 2-0 to Mourinho's Chelsea, iirc.
Eriktheviking
Goran Bunjevcevic
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im not sure they are not all bad. You cant change 9 players then expect a decent performance 3 games into a new way of playing. Some of those are well capable of slotting into a first 11 when needed.
im not sure they are not all bad. You cant change 9 players then expect a decent performance 3 games into a new way of playing. Some of those are well capable of slotting into a first 11 when needed.
MKSpur
Christian Ziege
I reckon we'll change 9 players on Saturday and see an immediate improvement.
I do agree with the wider sentiment hough. One or two could slot in and be carried by the first team. We could probably have blended 4 or 5 yesterday and controlled the game more.
In the new first team set up the midfield is dominant it eases the pressure on the defence, the first choice defence is all technically competent and more athletic and Maddison is on another level for ball carrying and creativity. The front 3 was pretty much the same performance as the league games imo, reliant on service rather than making something happen.
City change their whole eleven and don't look anywhere near as good, it's the same for any team.
Disappointed with Anges selection, but also understand it as he has to involve fringe players. This is why I never understood people saying how it was good we don't have European football. Going to be a lot of unhappy players training hard all week and just getting the odd minutes here and there at best....
I reckon we'll change 9 players on Saturday and see an immediate improvement.
I do agree with the wider sentiment hough. One or two could slot in and be carried by the first team. We could probably have blended 4 or 5 yesterday and controlled the game more.
In the new first team set up the midfield is dominant it eases the pressure on the defence, the first choice defence is all technically competent and more athletic and Maddison is on another level for ball carrying and creativity. The front 3 was pretty much the same performance as the league games imo, reliant on service rather than making something happen.
It comes down to horses for courses. PEH and Skipp for example have shown that they can blunt a game for you when 2 goals up. We all know that they aren’t creative types. So at 0-0 away to a premier league team in a knock out comp, is it wise to play both of them along with another new entry in midfield, blunt full backs, and replacements in the wide forward roles that aren’t the calibre of Son or Kulu?
Last night was a pretty big misstep by Ange. I keep reading “he had to find out about them” etc. He simply didn’t have to do that 9 at a time.
Imagine last night was home to an Exeter or Stevenage - he likely would have got away with the 9 changes. I think away to Fulham, and the way he’s spoken about the fans and the desire to win a trophy - it needed a bit more tact.
indospurs
Young-Pyo Lee
LWOS were all slating him for the wholesale change he made, all wanted to win this cup, our best bet. Hardly aiming high, but for me it was obvious what he wanted to see, and show when the lineup was announced, and the intent was not to win the cup unless the players showed something extraordinary.
And now is when we have to suck it up and just focus on the league again - that is most probably the only thing, I think, Levy and the Board have highlighted must be prioritized, how to get back into the top 4-6 and europe, primarily UCL of course.
these two days will be important as we who comes and goes, if any at all... fingers crossed!
And now is when we have to suck it up and just focus on the league again - that is most probably the only thing, I think, Levy and the Board have highlighted must be prioritized, how to get back into the top 4-6 and europe, primarily UCL of course.
these two days will be important as we who comes and goes, if any at all... fingers crossed!
Glad we lost?? Seriously, fudge off and support someone else.
He qualified the statement with his next sentence so maybe less of the “fudge off” eh?
ricky2tricky4city
Tom Huddlestone
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Did he or did he not state state that he was glad he we lost? So no, no less of the fudge off, no excuse for being glad we lost.
ricky2tricky4city
Tom Huddlestone
You must understand the positives of not having European football? It's just you side with the negatives of not having it?
metalgear
Nayim
Basically Ange undestimated the opponents or overestimated the ability.of his players.
His highest level was the Scottish league so he will make mistakes like this. He will learn the hard way that he has to rotate with uneven quality available but there is a lot of work to get the right players on the bench.
This will take another 1-2 windows , undoing the work done in recruitment previously for another type of football.
Will be interesting to see how Ange responds. He is rational and smart but I think he will be under a lot of pressure when afcon and the inevitable injuries sets in the later part of the season.
DeanoAustin
Christian Ziege
If this is true, it was by very fine margins. The danger here is saying “Ange is to blame totally, this is a black mark.”
We lost on pens. Away. To a good PL team.
Not saying you’re doing it, I can’t tell from your post, but making definitive or absolute judgements on Ange for this is wrong. We lost on what’s effectively a lottery situation.
I was relieved we only went in 1 down in the first half. We were very poor.
tommysvr
Simon Davies
Ange has been coaching for 40 odd years. He would have known the risks. Hell, we all know them. Rotating 9 players can lead to a disjointed performance. He rolled the dice and lost on penalties.