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Transfer thread

Finney Is Back said:
Sorry but that is not true. Below shows our squad (OS = Overseas Player) (AT = Association Trained player) (U21 = under 21):

1. Vicario (OS1)
2. Kinsky (OS2)
3. Austin (AT1)
4. Van Der Ven (OS3)
5. Romero (OS4)
6, Dragusin (OS5)
7. Danso (OS6)
8. Davies (AT2)
9. Udogie (OS7)
10. Spence (AT3
11. Porro (OS8)
12. Palhinha (OS9)
13. Bissouma (OS10)
13. Bergval (U21 1)
13. Gray (U21 2)
14. Sarr (OS11)
15. Bentancur (OS12)
16. Simmons (OS13)
17. Kulusevski (OS14)
18. Maddison (AT4)
18. Odobert (U21 3)
19. Kudus (OS15)
20. Solanke (AT5)
20. Tel (U21 4)
21. Richarlison (OS16)
22. Muani (OS17)
22. Scarlett (U21 5)

With Johnson here we still had 2 places we could've filled in our squad and that is assuming we register every single player above when we know that Maddison is likely out for the whole season. All Johnson going does is allow us to sign new 3 players over the age of 21 instead of 2 - but all of those players would have to be association trained. It is a fallacy that we need to make space for new players, we have also been seriously trimming the wage bill these last few years so getting Johnson's modest wages off the wage bill shouldn't have been a necessity.
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True for the PL, not the CL.

Having multiple players not registered for the CL creates some problems.
 
Raziel said:
Believe we get some self correction next season, Gray & Bergvall become club trained
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They're still U21 so will get free list B status because they've now completed 2 years with club registration.

They won't be club trained unless I'm mistaken, but they will free up 2 List A slots which is important. Vuskovic would need one of those slots as he has only just started the process of being registered with the club for 2 years.

I think over 21s like Devine and Scarlett would be club trained though.
 
Kandi1977 said:
That's a misconception. There is no such thing as "home grown". Danso is assosiation trained in the CL too, but we can only name 4 as assosiation trained. We have plenty in that category, but we struggle with club trained players for the CL. We have only 1 out of 4 spots covered there.
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Is he? He moved to Austria at 16 years old.
 
braineclipse said:
True for the PL, not the CL.

Having multiple players not registered for the CL creates some problems.
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What problems does it create?

The PL is what we need to worry about, without sorting out a bigger and better squad for the PL then we won't be in Europe anyway. Note that I don't see us qualifying for Europe next season anyway so it hardly matters but if we do somehow scrape in then both Gray and Bergval can come off of the overseas list next season which would open up two further spots.
 
Muttley said:
They're still U21 so will get free list B status because they've now completed 2 years with club registration.

They won't be club trained unless I'm mistaken, but they will free up 2 List A slots which is important. Vuskovic would need one of those slots as he has only just started the process of being registered with the club for 2 years.

I think over 21s like Devine and Scarlett would be club trained though.
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Sorry to spoil the party. But we’re not gonna be in Europe next season.
 
Crab.C.Nesbitt said:
I wonder if kudus was already carrying an injury before Sunday’s game? He seems to have lost pace and is checking back when he would have previously marauded down the ring. It’s much easier for opposition players to catch up to him than when he first joined
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Hopefully being our main out-ball at the start of this season and having to hold off multiple opponents every few minutes hasn’t broken Kudus, like how carrying our team for the middle part of last season broke Kulusevski.
 
Silly McSilly Face said:
One of things you forget about the Poch years is what beasts that team were. Eriksen and Son seemed like the weaklings in that team and they're both, what 5'11 and no push overs physically. Rose probably actually the smallest but again no shrinking violet to a bit of rough and tumble. Jan, Toby, Walker, Dier, Dembele, Alli, Kane, Lamela, Chadli etc all 6ft or over and absolute animals.
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Does go to show how much strength training that Xavi Simons needs to do in the gym when you consider that he weighs almost 3 stone less than Eriksen or Rose!

Xavi Simons 5’10” (178cm) 9 stone 2 lbs (58kg)
Eriksen 5’11” (181cm) 11 stone 13 lbs (76kg)
Danny Rose 5’8” (173cm) 12 stone 0 lb (76kg)
 
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SteveAWOL said:
Does go to show how much strength training that Xavi Simons needs to do in the gym when you consider that he weighs almost 3 stone less than Eriksen or Rose!

Xavi Simons 5’10” (178cm) 9 stone 2 lbs (58kg)
Eriksen 5’11” (181cm) 11 stone 13 lbs (76kg)
Danny Rose 5’8” (173cm) 12 stone 0 lb (76kg)
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Out of interest, is that the 16/17 version of Eriksen and Rose?
 
Finney Is Back said:
Sorry but that is not true. Below shows our squad (OS = Overseas Player) (AT = Association Trained player) (U21 = under 21):

1. Vicario (OS1)
2. Kinsky (OS2)
3. Austin (AT1)
4. Van Der Ven (OS3)
5. Romero (OS4)
6, Dragusin (OS5)
7. Danso (OS6)
8. Davies (AT2)
9. Udogie (OS7)
10. Spence (AT3
11. Porro (OS8)
12. Palhinha (OS9)
13. Bissouma (OS10)
13. Bergval (U21 1)
13. Gray (U21 2)
14. Sarr (OS11)
15. Bentancur (OS12)
16. Simmons (OS13)
17. Kulusevski (OS14)
18. Maddison (AT4)
18. Odobert (U21 3)
19. Kudus (OS15)
20. Solanke (AT5)
20. Tel (U21 4)
21. Richarlison (OS16)
22. Muani (OS17)
22. Scarlett (U21 5)

With Johnson here we still had 2 places we could've filled in our squad and that is assuming we register every single player above when we know that Maddison is likely out for the whole season. All Johnson going does is allow us to sign new 3 players over the age of 21 instead of 2 - but all of those players would have to be association trained. It is a fallacy that we need to make space for new players, we have also been seriously trimming the wage bill these last few years so getting Johnson's modest wages off the wage bill shouldn't have been a necessity.
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Cl squad is different rules though.
 
Finney Is Back said:
He’s out injured isn’t he?
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He’ll fit right in with us then… perhaps signing an already injured player will result in a miraculous recovery 🙃

Injury: Unknown

Like Gonzalez, Savinho was forced off against Sunderland and Guardiola admitted the injury 'didn't look good'. The Brazilian's return date is not yet known.

Potential return date: Unknown
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