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Trans stuff

kb 1984 said:
A why if a gay men's team accepts you the competition accepts you the clubs your playing accepts you. Who are we to say sorry you can't play. this isn't him playing for Australia or even 1st grade

B this isn't elite sport this is amatuer sport were you'd be lucky to find changing rooms. My daughter plays rugby league half the team are gay & they would except & welcome a trans player as the rules don't bar them from playing unless it's changed in recent times
As for safety I have watched them play none hold back people get injured & hurt all the time

who are we to tell people what they can or can't do when it's not affecting us
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Over 18s males arent allowed to play contact sport with u16 males on safety grounds. You can do serious harm to people when strength and power are mismatched in sport
 
Gutter Boy said:
Over 18s males arent allowed to play contact sport with u16 males on safety grounds. You can do serious harm to people when strength and power are mismatched in sport
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i am confused maybe it's my age men vs men
do trans players play under 16 or under 18s in the uk
 
kb 1984 said:
i am confused maybe it's my age men vs men
do trans players play under 16 or under 18s in the uk
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I just meant men are forbidden from playing against boys on safety grounds. And its the same issue with trans women against biological women. You just too easily hurt people that are physically matched against.
 
kb 1984 said:
Agreed but if women are happy to play with or against trans players especially amatuer teams we should step aside & let them play.
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Its the safety, not the competitiveness. For contact sports anyway

Although even on competitiveness, park run get a lot of hassle about the high proportion of women's race won by trans women
 
kb 1984 said:
So do you believe women who have transitioned like the story above shouldn't be allowed to play mens sport.

What if the women are happy for the men who have transitioned to play do we override them & say no.
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The problem is the women that do have an issue with it are shouted down and called transphobic like Sharron Davies, Martina Navratilova, Sally Gunnell and Riley Gaines. I’d imagine there are lots more that just don’t want the hassle so they keep quiet even though it’s their livelihood at stake, that isn’t right. Even Laura Woods got targeted on Twitter just for commenting “great article” on the subject during the 2024 olympics.
 
For me the bigger issue is inclusion, make it work, you can’t do what the FA have just done and tell a group of women they are no longer welcome to play the sport and have to go and do something else.

Segregation of sport, distilled down to only two genders, is downright insulting to anybody not cis.
 
Baleforce said:
For me the bigger issue is inclusion, make it work, you can’t do what the FA have just done and tell a group of women they are no longer welcome to play the sport and have to go and do something else.

Segregation of sport, distilled down to only two genders, is downright insulting to anybody not cis.
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Well there's already Queens of the South. Someone set up Queens of the North and we've got a competition going
 
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