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*** Tottenham vs Rochdale OMT ***

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the dza said:
But then Moura has played with them the least and was the best player.
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Yes that was because of his individual skill, nothing to do with the fluidity of our system. This is why a signing like him was crucial, when we aren’t our fluid self with the ball a dribbler like him can still create out of nothing....
 
harr1984 said:
Yes that was because of his individual skill, nothing to do with the fluidity of our system. This is why a signing like him was crucial, when we aren’t our fluid self with the ball a dribbler like him can still create out of nothing....
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No doubt fluidity helps. I just think there is something in needing to be super match fit for a Poch side and if you aren’t, it’s obvious. Too many back ups across too many games now are failing to perform.
 
BrainOfLevy said:
I have some thoughts on this, because below par performances from Poch’s squad players are now becoming a pattern, not just a one off. And I think it comes down to conditioning and needing minutes in quite an extreme way to play Poch’s style of football.

And this is the trade off that I think we make with Poch. No managers philosophy has 400% only positives and no trade offs at any other point. With Poch, we get amazing performances when the team is in peak condition, fully firing, and we usually play fantastic during the run in. And that requires playing guys like Dele and Dembele in early cup matches against the likes of Barnsley, even when Dembele was carrying an injury for example, because he needed minutes.

If you aren’t firing though, and aren’t in peak condition, I imagine it’s bloody hard. We see it with whoever is the back up to Kane that they don’t get the minutes to perform well, and both Janssen and Llorente have struggled. But you’ve also seen it today with Winks, Wanyama, Toby. They were all bad and I think they are all trying to find their way back to fully fit form, which for a Poch team means more than any other.

Admittedly this doesn’t cover Foyth, who has improved every time I’ve seen him even without minutes - maybe young players are more amenable to the demands. And Son, who was bad but has had minutes - but I think this is just classic Son, ridiculously inconsistent no matter the circumstance.

Long story short, this is something of a pattern now and I don’t think a replay hurts is at all. I think Poch pays little mind to the risk of injury and more to the benefits of getting minutes into players, so all of the back ups that played today will have more of a chance of getting into form. And if we end up needing them in more important games, we will probably benefit.
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I couldn't distinguish between those "in the groove" and those who weren't tonight.

Moura, Foyth and Sissoko were probably our best players today (until we put the footballers on) and none have been regulars the last few weeks.
 
scaramanga said:
We need them if there are injuries.

Without them we're only one injury from Sissoko
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If they play in the same half-arsed, incompetent manner that they they played today, we don't actually. I would take Sissoko every day of the week. And know what... I am sure so will Poch!

If it had been Sissoko at the end of the goalie's punt upfield, instead of Wanyama, we would be in quarter finals....
 
Our problem, which is a common theme, is our slow start to games. We have had too many early disasters like Poo away, City away, Juve away, West Brom at home immediately spring to mind. Our first halves are often turgid, tepid, slow motion ineffective displays. It has been a recurring theme this season. Apart from the obvious exception of United at home, why do we start games so limply?
 
Pirate55 said:
Our problem, which is a common theme, is our slow start to games. We have had too many early disasters like Poo away, City away, Juve away, West Brom at home immediately spring to mind. Our first halves are often turgid, tepid, slow motion ineffective displays. It has been a recurring theme this season. Apart from the obvious exception of United at home, why do we start games so limply?
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Don't think tempo was the issue today (it often is)

Just a poor day at the office for a lot of players -> Llorente, Winks, Wanyama, Son, Toby, Rose (until last 15 minutes) all looked average, sloppy, give the ball away cheaply.

As others mentioned, Lucas a level above, Sissoko put in a shift and Lamela & Dele made a difference coming on.
 
Don't think its just a slow start, I think Poch just does not get the players at it for the matches with "Lesser" teams
the many of our players seem to think " I'm a good footballer they will let me do what I want" NO you have to put effect in, these lesser teams will,
 
Raziel said:
Don't think tempo was the issue today (it often is)

Just a poor day at the office for a lot of players -> Llorente, Winks, Wanyama, Son, Toby, Rose (until last 15 minutes) all looked average, sloppy, give the ball away cheaply.

As others mentioned, Lucas a level above, Sissoko put in a shift and Lamela & Dele made a difference coming on.
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While I agree that the players you mentioned were all below par, if we had started at a higher tempo, we should have blown them away. We were slow and lethargic in all our play today. Rochdale deserved their replay.
 
️ Due to the outcome of today’s FA Cup tie, our @premierleague fixture with @CPFC has been rescheduled to 12pm on Sunday 25 February.

Saw this tweet from Spurs a short while ago.
 
Bullet said:
I'm very pleased we have a replay, I love watching Spurs and am pleased I get to see them again!

Also it is very valuable game time for the reserves.

I was thinking "these are the reserves, many working their way back from injury, no wonder they are so disjointed" but dza makes a great point above... Moura was a level above, straight away, after hardly playing all season.
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Made those comments during the game
More competitive games for Toby, rose, winks and moura

And a chance for more experience for Fouth who was very good IMO
 
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