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The Official 2017/18 Premier League Thread
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Robspur12
John Lacy
Believe it or not I prefer Mourinho to Guardiola. My mate, a Fulham fan, met Mourinho in Fulham with his daughter, said Mourinho was a gent. I think he puts on a persona just for the media. I found his spats with Wenger hilarious.
Guardiola tries to come across as the brooding, sensitive, intellectual type but just comes across as a bit of a twit. He wound me up with his "Spurs are the Harry Kane team" comment earlier in the season. Also Mourinho had a point about Guardiola's catalan independence statement, how comes he gets to wear a symbol of it when there was such a fuss over wearing the poppy?
K.D.D.D.D.Soc
Paul Walsh
Watching that Merseyside derby I was shocked to see how poor Sigurdsson was, I never understood why so many thought we should have tried to resign him, his display today made Sissoko buy look like a snip!
superspurs
Justin Edinburgh
This is something I get a lot of joy watching, growing up watching them get so many penalties, so many decisions, Pedro fudging Mendes. Their fans have no idea how football really is, how refs really are but they've experienced it a lot more since Fergie left. Players like Young and Herrera think they've never committed a foul and if they're touched it's a guaranteed free kick, total clams and it boils my tinkle.
Gazza
Nick Barmby
One way to flog him to Everton
glasgowspur
Dimitar Berbatov
Yeah, you can' blame Jose for saying that was a pen, 99 out of 100 at OT that is a pen for Utd.
The leagues done now, much like the Leicester season The narrative has been written and it's not going to be allowed to change.
Was interesting watching Neville and gallagher after the game, Neville came across as a totally poor loser.
Robbo
Les Ferdinand
Jose Mourinho in furious dressing-room bust-up with Emirates Marketing Project keeper Ederson as tempers flare after Manchester derby
Jose Mourinho was involved in a furious dressing-room bust-up with Emirates Marketing Project goalkeeper Ederson as the Manchester derby descended into acrimony.
Sources claimed the Manchester United manager had milk and water thrown at him after the spat with Ederson.
Mourinho was thought to have gone to the door of City’s dressing room to ask their players to show more respect amid apparent disappointment over the way the Premier League leaders were celebrating their 2-1 win, as music blared from the visiting team dressing room.
But a war of words ended up breaking out at that point with Mourinho and Ederson believed to have been yelling at each other in Portuguese as a melee ensued involving players from both sides. There were even reports that Mourinho was hit on the head with a plastic water bottle, with security staff eventually forced to intervene.
The former Everton and Arsenal midfielder, Mikel Arteta, one of Pep Guardiola’s assistants, was left with blood running down his face after allegedly being cut above the eyebrow in the skirmishes, which evoked memories of the infamous Battle of the Buffet at Old Trafford in October 2004 when Sir Alex Ferguson was hit by pizza after United’s game with Arsenal turned ugly.
Eyewitnesses said that United striker Romelu Lukaku was another prominent figure in the skirmishes which spiralled out of control as police looked on from a distance.
Mourinho later accused City of being “protected by luck” after claiming his team were denied a “clear penalty” against their bitter rivals for the second successive season at Old Trafford.
Ander Herrera was booked for diving by referee Michael Oliver after a challenge by Nicolas Otamendi in the 79th minute that Mourinho was convinced was a foul by the City defender.
And the Portuguese simmered with injustice after also arguing that United had been denied a penalty in their 2-1 home loss to City in September last year when Claudio Bravo dived into a challenge on Wayne Rooney.
“Emirates Marketing Project are a very good team and they are protected by the luck, and the gods of football are behind them,” Mourinho said.
“My first reaction is I feel sorry for referee Michael Oliver because he had a very good match but unfortunately he made an important mistake.
“It is like last season, exactly the same. You can speak about anything you want, you can bring any football theory, you can bring the stats, the ball possession, you can bring everything you want but, like last season, it is a huge penalty in a crucial moment of the game.
“Yes they [City] had much more of the ball, yes they had that apparent control of the game but the biggest save is the double save of their goalkeeper [Ederson from Romelu Lukaku and Juan Mata] and the biggest decision of the game is the unlucky decision of Michael [Oliver].”
Mourinho claimed City scored two “disgraceful” goals from United’s perspective – both of which had come from mistakes by Lukaku – but admitted the 11-point gap to City at the top of the table was a “significant distance” and cast doubt over whether his side would be able to bridge it.
“I think when you see Emirates Marketing Project play, you expect Emirates Marketing Project to score great goals, not to score two disgraceful goals,” he said. “They are the last goals you expect to concede against a quality team like Emirates Marketing Project, two very bad goals... with a rebound. Incredible lucky or unlucky, depending on your perspective.
“It is a significant distance [to City now]. I don’t know [if we can make it up]. I know we can win next Wednesday [against Bournemouth]. We can work and fight for it. That is the only thing I say.”
Meanwhile, Pep Guardiola has raised fresh doubts over Vincent Kompany’s long-term future at Emirates Marketing Project by admitting he can no longer rely on his captain’s fitness.
Kompany was substituted at half time at Old Trafford with yet another injury and Guardiola admitted he was running out of patience. The Belgium defender, who has 18 months left on his contract, has been plagued by injury for the past two years.
“Kompany is injured,” the City manager said. “We wait and see. Vinny is always like this – unfortunately we can’t count on him for a long time.”
Jose Mourinho was involved in a furious dressing-room bust-up with Emirates Marketing Project goalkeeper Ederson as the Manchester derby descended into acrimony.
Sources claimed the Manchester United manager had milk and water thrown at him after the spat with Ederson.
Mourinho was thought to have gone to the door of City’s dressing room to ask their players to show more respect amid apparent disappointment over the way the Premier League leaders were celebrating their 2-1 win, as music blared from the visiting team dressing room.
But a war of words ended up breaking out at that point with Mourinho and Ederson believed to have been yelling at each other in Portuguese as a melee ensued involving players from both sides. There were even reports that Mourinho was hit on the head with a plastic water bottle, with security staff eventually forced to intervene.
The former Everton and Arsenal midfielder, Mikel Arteta, one of Pep Guardiola’s assistants, was left with blood running down his face after allegedly being cut above the eyebrow in the skirmishes, which evoked memories of the infamous Battle of the Buffet at Old Trafford in October 2004 when Sir Alex Ferguson was hit by pizza after United’s game with Arsenal turned ugly.
Eyewitnesses said that United striker Romelu Lukaku was another prominent figure in the skirmishes which spiralled out of control as police looked on from a distance.
Mourinho later accused City of being “protected by luck” after claiming his team were denied a “clear penalty” against their bitter rivals for the second successive season at Old Trafford.
Ander Herrera was booked for diving by referee Michael Oliver after a challenge by Nicolas Otamendi in the 79th minute that Mourinho was convinced was a foul by the City defender.
And the Portuguese simmered with injustice after also arguing that United had been denied a penalty in their 2-1 home loss to City in September last year when Claudio Bravo dived into a challenge on Wayne Rooney.
“Emirates Marketing Project are a very good team and they are protected by the luck, and the gods of football are behind them,” Mourinho said.
“My first reaction is I feel sorry for referee Michael Oliver because he had a very good match but unfortunately he made an important mistake.
“It is like last season, exactly the same. You can speak about anything you want, you can bring any football theory, you can bring the stats, the ball possession, you can bring everything you want but, like last season, it is a huge penalty in a crucial moment of the game.
“Yes they [City] had much more of the ball, yes they had that apparent control of the game but the biggest save is the double save of their goalkeeper [Ederson from Romelu Lukaku and Juan Mata] and the biggest decision of the game is the unlucky decision of Michael [Oliver].”
Mourinho claimed City scored two “disgraceful” goals from United’s perspective – both of which had come from mistakes by Lukaku – but admitted the 11-point gap to City at the top of the table was a “significant distance” and cast doubt over whether his side would be able to bridge it.
“I think when you see Emirates Marketing Project play, you expect Emirates Marketing Project to score great goals, not to score two disgraceful goals,” he said. “They are the last goals you expect to concede against a quality team like Emirates Marketing Project, two very bad goals... with a rebound. Incredible lucky or unlucky, depending on your perspective.
“It is a significant distance [to City now]. I don’t know [if we can make it up]. I know we can win next Wednesday [against Bournemouth]. We can work and fight for it. That is the only thing I say.”
Meanwhile, Pep Guardiola has raised fresh doubts over Vincent Kompany’s long-term future at Emirates Marketing Project by admitting he can no longer rely on his captain’s fitness.
Kompany was substituted at half time at Old Trafford with yet another injury and Guardiola admitted he was running out of patience. The Belgium defender, who has 18 months left on his contract, has been plagued by injury for the past two years.
“Kompany is injured,” the City manager said. “We wait and see. Vinny is always like this – unfortunately we can’t count on him for a long time.”
markysimmo
Johnny nice-tits
Mourinho and respect in the same sentence hahaha, roosterwomble
glasgowspur
Dimitar Berbatov
Pretty classless comments about komany from pep. Buy if you can' rely on him why do you keep picking him?
Mikey10
Pat van den Hauwe
https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...fracas-manchester-city?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other
Don’t hold your breath waiting for the ‘Disrepute’ charges.
nayimfromthehalfwayline
Andy Thompson
It just struck me that he is like a German Pardew. Psychotic positivity, weird touchline antics, a simmering resentment bubbling underneath, a team that attacks all out and cant defend for brick...
elyid
Gerry Armstrong
Likewise. I can't remember a manager being such a pr**k for a long time.
Almost every time they lose he screams in the refs after the match. Other than when we thrashed them so much he couldn't blame the ref.
nayimfromthehalfwayline
Andy Thompson
And yet, somehow, the idea that he is some jolly, quirky, likeable guy seems to persist!
there was no fuss with managers wearing a poppy? There was no fuss with Players wearing a poppy while not playing in a FIFFA (Internationals) - think its more evidence of Mourinho the clam rather than Guardiola the clam.
"There is not, however, any rule regarding whether managers can wear an item of clothing or an accessory which is intended to act as a political statement."
Baleforce
Ron Henry
funnily enough, the previous one that really annoyed me was his predecessor
ricky2tricky4city
Tom Huddlestone
I dislike Pep, but there are plenty of players i like in the city team and that is not just their ability but there doesn't to be too many clams.
DubaiSpur
Ian Walker
I agree. Mourinho plays the pantomime villain because he's settled into playing that role here in England, but by all accounts he's quite a nice bloke in person. And, to be fair, rivalry aside, the same is true of Wenger, and Conte, and most managers, really. Notable exceptions like Allardyce and Pardew aside, most of them now seem to be good men as well as good coaches.
Including Pep. But that's not why I dislike him - I have nothing against him personally. It just irks me that he spends 500m of the UAE's money, or gets given a team with Messi, Xavi and Iniesta in it - and then preaches the philosophy of passing triangles and attractive football from on high like he's some football iconoclast, come to lift us from the dark ages we apparently inhabit by choice.
It's not by choice, it's by necessity, Pep. We can't all spend 500m and then tell them to play pretty triangles. Or steal all our rivals' best players and then dominate the league. Or get given three of the best midfielders to ever play the game and then expect plaudits for letting them demonstrate that to the world.
Nothing he's done has been without those enormous aids. And so there's always question marks around him that simply don't exist for someone similarly successful but more down-to-earth like Mou - who worked his way up the hard way. Or Poch, who does a fine job with a lot less than Pep has available to him. And thus, he has little right to be as snooty and dismissive as he usually is.
