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Squad

Diamond Lights said:
sounds like Kolo Muani is done.

Xavi off the left, Kolo Muani and Kudus up top.

Could be a great front 3 but we need someone to pass them the ball.
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We need Simon's in the middle and he's a level above Maddison so Maddison isn't taking the middle once he returns and as much as I like Kulu I don't seriously see him usurping Xavi for that role either but it will be good to finally have depth in the creative areas.

I do largely like the work we've done in the squad this sun er. I proved the technical level in some critical areas. The attack which was super weak has jumped up some levels with the addition s of Kudus, Xavi and now Muani. I wish we could have gotten a LWF as well to really fill all the attacking gaps.

My priorities as stated before

RWF (Kudus)
CM (Palhinha)
LB
AM (Simons)


Striker was the next but I wasn't expecting anything so didn't bother thinking about it. So very happy to get one in and moreso a player I actually already rate in Muani.

After this the obvious hole is the LW and the LB but maybe we can address in the winter window.
 
So UEFA squad dilemma time

List A (20 Names, 17 Max)
Vic
Kinsky
Porro
Udogie
Romero
VDV
Danso
Takai (Surely Misses out?)
Gray (Misses out or moves to AT if Solanke doesn't make it)
Palhinha
Bents
Biss (Misses Out?)
Bergval
Sarr
Kudus
Odobert
Tel
Richi
Muani
Simons

Club Trained (4 max)
Austin

Association Trained (4 max)
Spence
Davies
Johnson
Solanke (if not fit, Gray can take an AT slot)

Injured, so not named: Dragu, Kulu, Madds

Did I get this one right?
 
Muttley said:
So UEFA squad dilemma time

List A (20 Names, 17 Max)
Vic
Kinsky
Porro
Udogie
Romero
VDV
Danso
Takai (Surely Misses out?)
Gray (Misses out or moves to AT if Solanke doesn't make it)
Palhinha
Bents
Biss (Misses Out?)
Bergval
Sarr
Kudus
Odobert
Tel
Richi
Muani
Simons

Club Trained (4 max)
Austin

Association Trained (4 max)
Spence
Davies
Johnson
Solanke (if not fit, Gray can take an AT slot)

Injured, so not named: Dragu, Kulu, Madds

Did I get this one right?
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I don't think Davies counts as association trained does he? I seem to remember that both he and Dier caused us that headache under Poch, as Davies was classed as Welsh association trained and Dier Portuguese.
 
I think looking at this squad now, the key characteric is going to be versatility.

Putting the keepers to one side, there's really only pahlinha, udogie and Solanke who are single position players out of the first twenty:

Porro - RB, RW
Romero - CB, DM
Vdv - CB, LB
Danso - RB CB
Davies - LB CB
Spence - LB RB
Johnson RW LW ST
Kudus - RW AM LW
Sarr - DM CM AM
Bentancur - DM CM
Gray - RB CB DM CM
Maddison LW CM AM
Kulusevski - RW AM F9
Bergvall - CM AM
Simons - CM LW AM RW
Odobert LW AM RW
Tel LW ST
Kolo Muani - LW ST RW
Richarlison - LW ST

That's a lot of talent in a lot of positions, and while I understand some are not as good as others in the roles they can play, it's a sign of our recruitment approach that we want flexible players.

This is likely the strongest squad since the halycon days of verts, Toby, walker, rose, Eriksen, Alli, dembele, Kane and Son, if we can get everyone fit at the same time.
 
Surfless said:
This is likely the strongest squad since the halycon days of verts, Toby, walker, rose, Eriksen, Alli, dembele, Kane and Son, if we can get everyone fit at the same time.
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Well, I don't think we're quite at that level because of the weaker first eleven compared to that one. That first eleven was the best since 1961. Any Spurs side is going to struggle being compared to peak Poch Spurs - that season in 2016-17 when we were blowing teams away for fun.

But the backup is a lot stronger than that group's was, for sure. I think I would phrase it as - weaker first eleven, stronger backups for squad positions 12 through 25.

Think we're a good shout for 5th-6th if we can avoid injuries, which would be a good start for Frank. :)
 
DubaiSpur said:
Well, I don't think we're quite at that level because of the weaker first eleven compared to that one. That first eleven was the best since 1961. Any Spurs side is going to struggle being compared to peak Poch Spurs - that season in 2016-17 when we were blowing teams away for fun.

But the backup is a lot stronger than that group's was, for sure. I think I would phrase it as - weaker first eleven, stronger backups for squad positions 12 through 25.

Think we're a good shout for 5th-6th if we can avoid injuries, which would be a good start for Frank. :)
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You ignored the word "since". 😬

We are not at that level, no, but this is as good as it's been since then.
 
Silly McSilly Face said:
I don't think Davies counts as association trained does he? I seem to remember that both he and Dier caused us that headache under Poch, as Davies was classed as Welsh association trained and Dier Portuguese.
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camspur said:
Correct, Davies is homegrown for PL but not CL, Danso is the same.
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So I think that means Gray becomes the 4th AT and Davies has to fight with the rest for a List A slot

List A (20 Names, 17 Max)
Vic
Kinsky
Porro
Udogie
Romero
VDV
Danso
Takai
Davies
Palhinha
Bents
Biss
Bergval
Sarr
Kudus
Odobert
Tel
Richi
Muani
Simons

Club Trained (4 max)
Austin

Association Trained (4 max)
Spence
Gray
Johnson
Solanke

Injured, so not named: Dragu, Kulu, Madds

So this means that Frank cannot name 3 of the above List A. I have a feeling it will be Takai, Biss and one of Odobert and Tel. It might make the squad too short of defensive options in an injury crisis if Davies is omitted. Then again Gray's inclusion as AT could mean he becomes the cover and Davies is omitted.
 
Muttley said:
So I think that means Gray becomes the 4th AT and Davies has to fight with the rest for a List A slot

List A (20 Names, 17 Max)
Vic
Kinsky
Porro
Udogie
Romero
VDV
Danso
Takai
Davies
Palhinha
Bents
Biss
Bergval
Sarr
Kudus
Odobert
Tel
Richi
Muani
Simons

Club Trained (4 max)
Austin

Association Trained (4 max)
Spence
Gray
Johnson
Solanke

Injured, so not named: Dragu, Kulu, Madds

So this means that Frank cannot name 3 of the above List A. I have a feeling it will be Takai, Biss and one of Odobert and Tel. It might make the squad too short of defensive options in an injury crisis if Davies is omitted. Then again Gray's inclusion as AT could mean he becomes the cover and Davies is omitted.
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Danso is at. I think davies is now. Someone said they changed it. Odobert may need another season, not sure.
 
Richi
Muani Simons Kudus
Bantancur Paulhina
Spence VDV Romero Poro
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Certainly feels a bit more robust and CL quality. Will need time to settle. Johnson could end up as a striker. Maybe has a bit more pace than Richarlison. And Odobert will have a role to play this season you feel. Muani up top and Odobert starting on the left might be the longer term.

I would like us to bench Paulinha in some games and play Gray or Bergval for more guile in possession. But hopefully Simons will help there - able to take the ball and turn. Could see him working well in midfield with Paulinha. Paulinha offering him protection and sweeping up if things don’t come off, Simons able to unlock space.
 
Pretty sure Davies now qualfies as homegrown as he came through the youth ranks at Swansea who UEFA regard as an English club as they play under the jurisdiction of the English FA , if he had come though the youth ranks of a Welsh club that plays in Welsh leagues then he wouldn't qualify.

The UEFA home grown player rule requires a 25-man squad for European competitions to contain a minimum of eight "home grown" players. These players must have been registered with any club or clubs affiliated to the same association for a period of three full seasons or 36 months between the ages of 15 and 21. At least four of these eight players must have been trained by the club itself for that period, making them "club-trained"

Madueke an English international doesn't qualify as homegrown by UEFA , as he didn't spend the required 3 years registered at an English club.

www.bbc.co.uk

Why is Noni Madueke homegrown in the Premier League but not in Europe?

BBC Sport's Ask Me Anything look at homegrown players in the Premier League.
www.bbc.co.uk www.bbc.co.uk

When Swansea won the league cup in 2013 they entered Europa Leage representing England, as you can see on UEFA site Swansea are an English club. :)

Swansea | UEFA Europa League 2025/26

Visit UEFA.com to find out how Swansea are doing in the UEFA Europa League 2025/2026, including latest match news, stats, squad list and news updates.
www.uefa.com www.uefa.com
 
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Lilbaz said:
Danso is at. I think davies is now. Someone said they changed it. Odobert may need another season, not sure.
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What you say could mean that Dano goes in as AT, and Gray misses out altogether.

Today will be interesting. We will get to see how Frank perceives some of his squad players. I think Takai and Biss will miss out. The 3rd person he has to break the bad news to will be interesting.
 
Muttley said:
What you say could mean that Dano goes in as AT, and Gray misses out altogether.

Today will be interesting. We will get to see how Frank perceives some of his squad players. I think Takai and Biss will miss out. The 3rd person he has to break the bad news to will be interesting.
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Solanke could miss out if injury is longer term.
 
Id probably go Takai and Kinsky (assuming Biss is still off to Turkey)

Id promise Kinsky in exchange though that he'll play every single domestic cup match this season
 
Gutter Boy said:
Id probably go Takai and Kinsky (assuming Biss is still off to Turkey)

Id promise Kinsky in exchange though that he'll play every single domestic cup match this season
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Not sure this works. I'm pretty sure you have to name 3 senior keepers in your UEFA squad.
 
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