I am not getting too stressed about it all (not a season ticket holder), I understand the logic, I don't like the decision though and I think it will damage the club in the longer term unless we really do push on winning things the atmosphere will be toxic.
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Season Ticket Renewal Talk
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Grays_1890
Colin Calderwood
Ala West Ham
IMO - they are slightly different as loads of their tickets are cheap as chips they are tinkled off as they got a brick stadium and still have owners who act like two bob when they were told they would start acting like a propper club - the scum down the road are the entitled ones.
Bedfordspurs
Martin Peters
I’ve said this loads online and no one is picking up on it....
How much more have we spent to accommodate NFL?
How much are they paying towards those costs?
Are the football fans subsiding American football being played at a football stadium?
I’d hazard a guess and say the extra pitch, entrance an changing rooms alone equate to around £80m. That’s £80m to be recovered somewhere and our NFL deal doesn’t cover that
jabbathehut
Luke Young
i'm sure the NFL tickets will be be cat a prices or beyond so i wouldn't worry too much.I think without the NFL the stadium doesn't get built or would cost the club even more.No way does Levy have the extra nfl bits and it costs even more the point was to make it cheaper for the club.The season tickets will sell out maybe some fans will feel alienated but usually happens with this sort of thing.I'm in phase 6 so either way the cheaper tickets will have gone in fact the 25000 best seats will have been gone by then.I will then have a choice to buy a season ticket or go back to being a member.If can't get a ticket i like i won't buy for the sake of it in fact i would say most of the non renewals will come from phases 5-8.
Bedfordspurs
Martin Peters
The NFL stuff has not made it cheaper. The special pitches alone would have bumped the cost up a hell of a lot
We have extra changing rooms and a special entrance so that’s additional cost that never would have been needed
jabbathehut
Luke Young
the nfl paid for it.
Kandi1977
Terry Dyson
Exstra enterance and changing rooms add very little, if anything, to the cost of the build. Those areas would just be used for something else. It's not like it would not be anything there!
The only extra cost is the retractable pitch. That is a significant additional investment, but having just a normal pitch would not give us significant lower ticket prices. If you believe that, you are kidding yourself.
Bedfordspurs
Martin Peters
There’s the kicker
We have built a stadium to appeal to other markets
All for that and why wouldn’t you
But that should be reflected in the prices for the people keeping the place sustainable and Operable
As I said... the premium for the pitch, and other NFL things which could have been used for additional revenue too is being paid for by the guaranteed income of the football fans
SpurMeUp
Jimmy Cantrell
How much do the goons generate on a match day? Having the sliding pitch creates many more ‘match days’ with all the catering as well as entrance revenue for concerts and NFL. NFL ticket prices will be a lot higher too! A stadium used every fortnight during the season only is a waste. The clever thing about the NFL is they paid upfront covering the build costs I suspect and guaranteed a certain amount of revenue.
It should bring in many more millions per year long term, if so it will prove to be an astute move, helping us surpass pool, the scum and others eventually.
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It should bring in many more millions per year long term, if so it will prove to be an astute move, helping us surpass pool, the scum and others eventually.
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mephitis
Niko Kranjcar
THE MEMBER'S "JOURNEY" (With some poetic licence. But you get me drift.)
Pre Jol: Pay extra, join the ST waiting list. Position 10,0000 but loyalty points and Bronze Membership mean you can travel to Grimsby et al .......
Post Jol: We've won something, things will only get better and you're moving up. Position 7,500 and loyalty points mean you're pretty much guaranteed an away ticket.......
Redknapp: Champions League, we're on our way and you're getting there. Position 2,000 and loyalty points mean you can take your pick on away games......
Sherwood: I know it's brick but you're almost there. Position 1,000, you can have a seat in the West Stand @ £mega, right behind Daniel (20 rows back actually but wahatever). Oh and we're taking away half your loyaty points... because that's fair.......
Potch: Now we're talking! You're at 350 on the waiting list and you can definitely have a seat at the front of the West Stand but sorry mate away tickets are out of the question, cos they only go to ST holders with 500 loyalty points and you fail big time on both counts.........
Potch 2: Hey, guess what! If you want a ST in the NWHL you've been waiting for you'll have to get a ST at Wembley. Otherwise you'll still be at 300 on the ST waiting list but 40,000 new ST holders will have moved in front of you. Also when you purchase said ST you'll lose any loyalty points. But let's be fair they were worth fvck all anyway, cos you ain't ever going to another away match now
NWHL: Congratulations you can now have a ST at NWHL! Michelin star dining, craft beer and airport, sorry sky lounge or whatever. Your Wembley equivalent ticket @£700? Oh yeh. That'll be £1,200 :-?
Pre Jol: Pay extra, join the ST waiting list. Position 10,0000 but loyalty points and Bronze Membership mean you can travel to Grimsby et al .......
Post Jol: We've won something, things will only get better and you're moving up. Position 7,500 and loyalty points mean you're pretty much guaranteed an away ticket.......
Redknapp: Champions League, we're on our way and you're getting there. Position 2,000 and loyalty points mean you can take your pick on away games......
Sherwood: I know it's brick but you're almost there. Position 1,000, you can have a seat in the West Stand @ £mega, right behind Daniel (20 rows back actually but wahatever). Oh and we're taking away half your loyaty points... because that's fair.......
Potch: Now we're talking! You're at 350 on the waiting list and you can definitely have a seat at the front of the West Stand but sorry mate away tickets are out of the question, cos they only go to ST holders with 500 loyalty points and you fail big time on both counts.........
Potch 2: Hey, guess what! If you want a ST in the NWHL you've been waiting for you'll have to get a ST at Wembley. Otherwise you'll still be at 300 on the ST waiting list but 40,000 new ST holders will have moved in front of you. Also when you purchase said ST you'll lose any loyalty points. But let's be fair they were worth fvck all anyway, cos you ain't ever going to another away match now
NWHL: Congratulations you can now have a ST at NWHL! Michelin star dining, craft beer and airport, sorry sky lounge or whatever. Your Wembley equivalent ticket @£700? Oh yeh. That'll be £1,200 :-?
I think there’s a lot of people in that situation. Phase 5-8 is full of people that paid £750-£800 for a Wembley adult ticket (or £250-£300 for a junior).
These same people are now going to be asked for £1200 for adult and possibly the same for a junior if all concessions areas are full.
No doubt we will be dipping into the waiting list which is also full of adult/junior combos. The same waiting list that was full of people that didn’t want a Wembley ticket for whatever reason which enabled it to reach those around 45000/50000 on the waiting list .....are we now to believe that these same people will step in and pay the £1200ish?
Mate, it's Levy we are talking about, there is absolutely no way Spurs is subsidizing the NFL, it is the other way around.
As has been said by others in the thread
- We have had a price freeze for several years now, while our product and the players we have got better
- Spurs fans have demanded that we don't move, the biggest additional cost to the stadium is likely the logistics effort to make it happen in just over a season
- And look through this board .. pay Toby what he wants, pay Kane what he wants, etc .. but keep my ticket prices what they were at WHL ????
Two things I get out of these conversations
- Yes, unfortunately some fans will get priced out, that will remain so as long as there is enough demand to sustain the higher prices
- English people have a very weird view of the only "real fans" are ones without money? so because people can afford an expensive ticket = brick atmosphere?
Bedfordspurs
Martin Peters
Well I’m guessing by the last part of your post your not from the UK and don’t come to the ground too often ? So when you do you make the most of it
Grounds here where they have brought in higher cost tickets and more corporate have had a big decline in the atmosphere and that’s a fact. But it’s not just new stands and grounds. Goodison is an old ground and the atmosphere can be awful
I think it’s partly a new fan base, partly football tourism and a biggy... random times of games having an affect on pee match rituals for certain fans
milo
Jack L. Jones
I think that it is unrealistic to expect us to build a new stadium and not have to increase ticket prices to cover it. It seemed obvious to me that this would happen.
Bedfordspurs
Martin Peters
Haven’t heard anyone say that they didn’t expect increases. I did. I expected the prices to go up
Equivalent £700 to be about £850 not £995
I also thought they would have a lot less price points