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Savinho

Is it me, but this one is feeling like the MGW commentary from the media.

By that comment, I mean that Spurs had moved on but the press still wanted to keep the MGW story open. Is it perhaps the case that Spurs WERE interested in Sav but when the door shut they moved on? That would have been 2 weeks ago in their world.
 
Is it me, but this one is feeling like the MGW commentary from the media.

By that comment, I mean that Spurs had moved on but the press still wanted to keep the MGW story open. Is it perhaps the case that Spurs WERE interested in Sav but when the door shut they moved on? That would have been 2 weeks ago in their world.
Or like the Kudus one that was noisy, quiet for a fortnight, then happened
 
Is it me, but this one is feeling like the MGW commentary from the media.

By that comment, I mean that Spurs had moved on but the press still wanted to keep the MGW story open. Is it perhaps the case that Spurs WERE interested in Sav but when the door shut they moved on? That would have been 2 weeks ago in their world.
I think we have stepped back the absolute must is a 10, we need to get one in

Might take more of the budget.
 
I think we have stepped back the absolute must is a 10, we need to get one in

Might take more of the budget.

You say that...but Sarr is playing quite like MGW. Not the most creative, but hard working, and actually quite effective in the number 10 role. I personally think Sarr will also score more than MGW does.

What we don't have is back-up and rotation for Sarr.

For me LW is more of an issue. We will get Kulu back at some point, and then Maddison too. If Kulu is back by November we maybe okay. What is lacking is LW. Son hasn't been replaced.

Johnson can do a job there. If he scores frequently getting on the end of Kudus crosses it can work. Especially if Johnson also starts to cut inside and shoot and score off his right foot. Johnson is written off time and again. And he keeps coming up with the goals.

That said I'd like someone to stretch the game on the left, and it is a bit of an unknown Johnson and Odobert playing there. They could both come good or underwelm.
 
Or like the Kudus one that was noisy, quiet for a fortnight, then happened

Yeah, can't really explain that one. 16 June was when the window re-opened for the second time. Wiki has his move date as 10 July. There was another window open from 1-10 June. It was still 34 days into the available transfer window and after pre-season had started.

lol - that is as good as it gets at Spurs.
 
Apparently we're preparing a new bid of £69.2m
Why are we preparing a bid, it's not a fudging cake

Because it takes time
Financing needs to structured for a start

We’ve only known about the Kulu injury for a few months, and the Maddison one for just over a fortnight.

It’s important not to rush these things.
 
You say that...but Sarr is playing quite like MGW. Not the most creative, but hard working, and actually quite effective in the number 10 role. I personally think Sarr will also score more than MGW does.

What we don't have is back-up and rotation for Sarr.

For me LW is more of an issue. We will get Kulu back at some point, and then Maddison too. If Kulu is back by November we maybe okay. What is lacking is LW. Son hasn't been replaced.

Johnson can do a job there. If he scores frequently getting on the end of Kudus crosses it can work. Especially if Johnson also starts to cut inside and shoot and score off his right foot. Johnson is written off time and again. And he keeps coming up with the goals.

That said I'd like someone to stretch the game on the left, and it is a bit of an unknown Johnson and Odobert playing there. They could both come good or underwelm.
Have you forgotten about Tel?
 
Have you forgotten about Tel?

Yes we are not really short of bodies. Just CL quality, proven attackers. Tel, Odobert have it all to prove. And need to develop. We have to be patient with them. Idk what Tels best position is. Or really what his best role is. He might make a great forward one day. Odobert looks perfect for the wing, at the moment as a sub and rotation option. So we could do with someone to fill that left sided berth. Imo.
 
Yes we are not really short of bodies. Just CL quality, proven attackers. Tel, Odobert have it all to prove. And need to develop. We have to be patient with them. Idk what Tels best position is. Or really what his best role is. He might make a great forward one day. Odobert looks perfect for the wing, at the moment as a sub and rotation option. So we could do with someone to fill that left sided berth. Imo.
It's annoying that Tel and Odobert seem a year or two off being the real deal, so we have a LOT of money tied up there, plus Moore coming through... mostly I'm thankful that we finally got rid of Werner, that was a lead weight dragging us down, and we also got money for Sonny which is good as he had gone off the boil... but I'm confused whether we really spent all that money on Tel for him to NOT start?
 
It's annoying that Tel and Odobert seem a year or two off being the real deal, so we have a LOT of money tied up there, plus Moore coming through... mostly I'm thankful that we finally got rid of Werner, that was a lead weight dragging us down, and we also got money for Sonny which is good as he had gone off the boil... but I'm confused whether we really spent all that money on Tel for him to NOT start?

When you mention Werner, it feels like we are already hugely advanced not having him now!!! :D


Agreed and Tel moved clubs to play presumably. Yet he hasn't put it together really in games yet. You get the impression he might turn it on in training. And needs to relax in games. He fluffs his lines under the spotlight at the moment. I think he can settle and start to finish well. He has technique that he's not showing in games. But he's not good enough to start in the CL or PL week in and out quite yet. At 20 that's no suprise.
 
Odobert hasn’t been given a chance, he has shown signs of a good player. We can’t all be super scouts like you. Pep rotates his players and gives youngsters a chance, if Odobert was at City i’m sure he would do well. I would much rather give Odobert a run of games than spend £70m on a step over merchant.

How can you disregard Odobert if he hasn’t had a run of games? Tel got 7 goals and 5 assists in the league for Bayern the season before last but he can’t get a run in our team. Its your opinion over mine, i have watched Savinho enough to know he isn’t a £70m player but you carry on with your Dads bigger than mine argument like we are in a school playground.
You've obviously never seen my posts because I'm one of Odobert's biggest backers on this forum, that doesn't change the obvious point that he's nowhere near Savio currently and might never get to that level.

That's my point, I'm all for giving a guy a chance but the copium needs to stop. Saying I'd rather give Odobert the chance is fine, saying Savio is no better than Odobert is nonsense based on everything we've seen them do (or in your case haven't seen clearly), Frank's unwillingness so far to use him and Frank's desire for Savio.
 
You have "sources" who have told you Frank didn't really want Eze, surely you'd be able to find out if we're in for Savinho?

In fairness that came from me, and what I had been told earlier in the window when I asked around was that he wasn't sure about his off the ball rate. I then heard he had come around to the idea. I understand the hesitency to believe anything these days TBF...I will add that if you see Ally Gold's piece from yesterday, he effectively supports that notion.
But the truth is that unless I were in Thomas' shoes, or Levy's for that matter, it's all 'expressions' from whomever we know, and thus is immediately inaccurate because it isn't from them!
 
In fairness that came from me, and what I had been told earlier in the window when I asked around was that he wasn't sure about his off the ball rate. I then heard he had come around to the idea. I understand the hesitency to believe anything these days TBF...I will add that if you see Ally Gold's piece from yesterday, he effectively supports that notion.
But the truth is that unless I were in Thomas' shoes, or Levy's for that matter, it's all 'expressions' from whomever we know, and thus is immediately inaccurate because it isn't from them!

Are you Bedfords source then? 😂

To be honest I havent see enough of Eze to have an opinion on whether we should (or should have) dropped the best part of £70m on him but I think Levy has rubbed off on me a bit as I'd be worried about how many years we'd get out of him!

From the little bits I've seen of Savinho he does look like an exciting prospect and I'd hope that our scouting department would recommend him based on stats & research rather than him being a get out of jail card.
 
Are you Bedfords source then? 😂
😂...for his sake I hope not (seriously, no)


To be honest I havent see enough of Eze to have an opinion on whether we should (or should have) dropped the best part of £70m on him but I think Levy has rubbed off on me a bit as I'd be worried about how many years we'd get out of him!

In one of my many long-winded efforts, I concluded that I LOVE the player and would've loved to see him with us, and that watching Frank's Spurs, he was not a natural fit for 70 mill.



From the little bits I've seen of Savinho he does look like an exciting prospect and I'd hope that our scouting department would recommend him based on stats & research rather than him being a get out of jail card.

I suspect a player of that profile is far more in Frank's wheelhouse. I also have to say I do not believe for one minute we are going to spend 80 million on him. And I could see why! However it looks like everyone will know we're 'hunting' and thus the prices are high. Here's hoping the various depts have indeed been working on other things for sometime and have a couple of rabbits from the hat to come.
 
It’s going to be a…. It’s tough in the market but we tried very hard statement by levy….. meanwhile other clubs get the deals done.

But I trust penny and back him to help win us the champions league and title
 
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