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Mabspurs said:
Let me get this straight... you are saying that a supposedly international player is unable to aimlessly hoof a ball from the penalty box to anywhere beyond the half way line because he did so with his "weaker foot".... and this was Udogie's fault??? I mean.... seriously?

And then when people argue that we are in our position because our players are not good enough, the reply is that these are internationals and it is all about Frank's tactics!
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Yeah, seriously. Watch it again and you'll see the options Udogie had, if he only wasn't that any to pass it long. Passing it back to Dragusin was the least favorable one and even an international under pressure can mis-hit a hoof up the field. A position that he didn't have to be put in in the first place.
 
dingdongo said:
Apologies if anyone has already posted but I see City fans absolutely ripping into Semenyo, calling all sorts of rubbish.

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"Net-negative", lols. fudging wally.

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Chrissivad said:
How many games well he miss?

Makes up for him not getting a red I guess....

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Watched it about 20 times, and Rodri has it wrong. Solanke has his foot around the foot of Gueyi. He doesn't kick him, he kicks round him. The injury is the clash of legs that then follows.

Articulate guy though and he is right about the inconsistency of referees.
 
Surfless said:
Watched it about 20 times, and Rodri has it wrong. Solanke has his foot around the foot of Gueyi. He doesn't kick him, he kicks round him. The injury is the clash of legs that then follows.

Articulate guy though and he is right about the inconsistency of referees.
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Rhodri is also right that it is the small details.
E.g. Solanke is onside by 1 inch, Solanke is about to shoot as Guehi's left foot stands partially on Solanke's left foot AND Solanke kicks through/around Guehi's challenge, it is such small moments and big decisions that decide games nowadays.

Although I must say that way back in the mists of time, there was some rumour about 115 reasons why City's records should be expunged.
 
Chrissivad said:
How many games well he miss?

Makes up for him not getting a red I guess....

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He's right. How he stayed on the pitch after committing two yellow card fouls which would've led to a red is beyond me. And you didn't work hard enough to get the game back. Has anyone reminded him that they were still a goal ahead after that goal. Toss-pot.
 
alekaras said:
Yeah, seriously. Watch it again and you'll see the options Udogie had, if he only wasn't that any to pass it long. Passing it back to Dragusin was the least favorable one and even an international under pressure can mis-hit a hoof up the field. A position that he didn't have to be put in in the first place.
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Then we must have been watching a different game - because when he hoofs it, there isn't a City player anywhere near him....

The lad is nowhere even close to being good enough - for all the BS of his agent - and it showed from his first Europa League game and sending off!!! The only reason he is not in Italy is our injury situation.....
 
billyiddo said:
Our available attacking & creative players this season are largely inexperienced at this level bar Richarlison & Bentancur - i think that it has been acknowledged that the youngsters & new to the league players have some potential between them and aren't complete write-offs - but ultimately they will bring inconsistent performances with that level of experience.
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You don't think there's a pattern there of them and us looking better when we as a team take the handbrake off, play with more attacking intent, more players getting forward?

I think when we're playing more cautiously we're essentially playing in a way that demands individual brilliance to shine through, demanding outstanding players to do outstanding things. That we don't really have outside of when Kudus was flying and some moments from Simons.
 
braineclipse said:
You don't think there's a pattern there of them and us looking better when we as a team take the handbrake off, play with more attacking intent, more players getting forward?

I think when we're playing more cautiously we're essentially playing in a way that demands individual brilliance to shine through, demanding outstanding players to do outstanding things. That we don't really have outside of when Kudus was flying and some moments from Simons.
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No, i think mostly the handbrake on stuff is pretty over stated and what we see for the most part is just poor / inconsistent play from our players. That's not to say we don't try to control or manage the game at different stages.
 
Kandi1977 said:
It wasn't. We made two horrible mistakes. Other than that, we were fine. Not especially good, but certainly not poor!
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In addition to the two goals they had Haaland through on goal, they had the Cherki shot close to goal from a tight angle.

Sure goals were a result of us losing possession, but that's kind of what happens when we struggle that badly to progress the ball. All first half us having possession probably meant a higher likelihood of a City chance than us creating anything.

The mitigating factor here is that City are very good and we're depleted because of injuries. But we were clearly second best, created very little while they created quite a bit.
 
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