***OMT Tottenham Hotspur v Burnlio, Sat Jan 24th, 3pm***

[mudshark]

18 months, not 5 or 6 seasons and would have been easily recoverable with right moves. This narrative that the team has been trash since Poch is revisionism at it's finest.

4th, 6th, 7th, 4th, 8th, 5th, 17th with 2 cup finals and a Europa win.

Reality the team was less than 5 points off top 4 in December, if the club had fired Frank then, brough in a decent manager and given them a signing or two in Jan window we would have everything to still play for. Now the goal is not to be squeaky bum time until end of season.

fudging amazing how this clubs fans went from top 4 as a goal lacked ambition -> well squad is brick, you can't expect us to beat Burnley and West Ham and Fulham

I respectfully disagree. "Champions of Europe," my hole.

 

[Robspur12]

They were leading when tel came on as I remember it, Odobert one was a decent save but it was at a good height for the keeper, he never touched one from Simmons.
He made quite a few saves, mostly imo ones I would expect him to make.

It was 1-1 I’ve just watched game of the day. Point is though we had good quality chances to put the game to bed and we didn’t. Then got torn apart twice at the back. Without those defensive lapses we win comfortably imho. What I do agree with is that We need to sort this out quickly or we will be in deep trouble.

 

[Rorschach]

I'm worried. We are all worried, but we could easily have won a bunch of these last few matches and been a couple of points off CL places. Small margins and all that.

 

[Muttley]

It was 1-1 I’ve just watched game of the day. Point is though we had good quality chances to put the game to bed and we didn’t. Then got torn apart twice at the back. Without those defensive lapses we win comfortably imho. What I do agree with is that We need to sort this out quickly or we will be in deep trouble.

What I would say is that if we had 11 players that were crossing the white line and playing for the shirt for the entire 90 mins then it could have been different. I would encourage everyone to watch Xavi on the first goal and Spence on the second. First goal, Xavi gives Walker the freedom of the pitch to cross that ball. Xavi then did exactly the same thing again later in the game. Then we have Spence for the second goal doing an "Aurier". Spence knows he should be getting back and tucking in with those spare Burnley men in the box. Porro would have been sprinting. Spence cowardly raised his arm and pretended he was holding the offside as the ball hit our net. Now whether Spence could have influenced the ultimate outcome of the goal or not is not the point I'm making. If he's 100% committed then he should be expecting the parry or the ricochet and being a proper defender and getting back into the mix.

As a fan, it's way easier to accept human error than it is a lack of commitment or application especially from players as intelligent and talented as these guys.

 

[tommysvr]

It was 1-1 I’ve just watched game of the day. Point is though we had good quality chances to put the game to bed and we didn’t. Then got torn apart twice at the back. Without those defensive lapses we win comfortably imho. What I do agree with is that We need to sort this out quickly or we will be in deep trouble.

Isn’t that why we hired this manager? To sort out the defense?

 

[Robspur12]

They were leading when tel came on as I remember it, Odobert one was a decent save but it was at a good height for the keeper, he never touched one from Simmons.
He made quite a few saves, mostly imo ones I would expect him to make.

My bad you’re right it was 2-1 when Tel had his chance. Apologies..

 

[Robspur12]

Isn’t that why we hired this manager? To sort out the defense?

Agreed. I’m more concerned with the way we are defending at the moment than the attack.

 

[thfcsteff]

No I didn’t watched highlights and listened live on the radio.

Be interested to see what you think of you get to watch a full match replay mate.

 

[thfcsteff]

I think if you take Kane and Son out of those sides we'd have likely been in a similar mess.

Looking back at those post Poch teams they were clearly being propped up two world class talents that we somehow managed to keep hold of.

I think this is absolutely true and something we don't recognise enough.

It is another of the reasons I fudging hated Mourinho; he told Levy that he could bring us over the line with that 2019/20 squad. Which was a lie (Poch even said it woud be a painful rebuild).
I think the confluence of Levy believing that tripe -plus covid then happening- definitely sucked us into a vortex.

 

[thfcsteff]

We cannot really play through the middle because we lack a progressive passer in the middle of the park. Gallagher is not a bad player but he is not the answer, and we still have the same problems which are obvious but alas, the powers that be appear oblivious.

I know mate.
One of my major issues with all of this has been that this manager appears to not be interested in playing that way.

 

[thfcsteff]

Hmm we had this same problem with Solanke last season. He very rarely had any shots on goal and was constantly feeding on scraps if you remember. It got to the point that people made the excuse that he was used as a pressing point rather than a focal attacking point.

Maybe we need to accept that either this squad isn't good at creating chances for him or he's not a potent threat?

I always felt Solanke was a 35 million striker we were heavily overpaying for. I do not ever see him getting 20 goals in a season for us. If he got 15 I'd be over the moon.