OMT: Mighty Spurs vs Chelscumski

[Pirate55]

Because we don’t have a spine

We’ve gone from Dembele to fats (who looked like he wanted off after 5) in the CM and Moura who can’t pass or control a football

This, unfortunately is our problem. We are SPINELESS at the moment. I have been saying for ages we need to recruit some beasts ( even started a thread about it!) . We need a dominating centre half, a strong ball winning DM and a rock ( like Giroud today) up front who can win headers and hold the ball up. Until we get such a spine we will always be able to be dominated even by half decent teams - like we were today.

Poch left us with a totally unbalanced squad and players well past their sell by date.

 

[Finney Is Back]

We may as well have played the youth team today. The only positive might be that where Poch would have had us fighting in their faces, giving everything, and we'd have probably still lost or drawn, maybe Mourinho accepted it was a tough ask, and set us up to stay compact and conserve some energy for the CL.

We're going out of that in one game's time.

 

[Robspur12]

Don't think there is any such thing. Successful management is a combination of a lot of factors - right man, right time, right squad.

I have faith in José and I don't think he took over at a great time or with a great squad. But the last two games have raised questions over whether he still has it or has the game passed him by.

I still think he has it but don't hold out much hope for the rest of this season.

I still think there are problems with the squad, too many strolling Billy big bollox in the team. Need a lot more intensity.

 

[Robspur12]

Couldn't agree more with your analysis of the game. Spot on.

But the Poch team we saw for the last 12-18 months of his reign would have lost today too.

12-18 months is an exaggeration. I remember us smashing Chelsea in November 2018 and Utd a few weeks before, at their gaff.

 

[Bullet]

Spineless, undermotivated idiots.

Didn't appear to be "up for it" at all. Staring into space, not bothered, not really that into it.

Waited to lose, until we lost. Then endured the losingness until we lost.

 

[Pirate55]

12-18 months is an exaggeration. I remember us smashing Chelsea in November 2018 and Utd a few weeks before at their gaff.

Nah. It all went downhill after we lost at Burnley, when Poch said beforehand we were still in the title race!!!

 

[Robspur12]

Today was hideous. Totally lacking in intensity. What does Jose see in Moura? Dele is not perfect but at least he will work his nuts off. Lamela may have his limitations but works hard. Both those players should be starting before Moura. Ndombele wtf? Needs a rocket up his arse.

 

[Mikey10]

Sorry but if this is the future, it belongs in the past. I’d let Mourinho go at end of the season. I always thought it should be an interim appointment not a long term one.

Don't think there is any such thing. Successful management is a combination of a lot of factors - right man, right time, right squad.

I have faith in José and I don't think he took over at a great time or with a great squad. But the last two games have raised questions over whether he still has it or has the game passed him by.

I still think he has it but don't hold out much hope for the rest of this season.

Hmmmm. I was all for his appointment but have to agree that he has approached the last week in a poor way overall. As the pundits on BT Sport said, we have some very good players and Chelsea have their own injury problems, so we need to be much braver.

Right. In which case maybe Mourinho is more canny. Poch would have had us fighting, we'd have lost or drawn anyway and be knackered for the CL.

The CL game is nearly three weeks away!

 

[Pirate55]

Question. Could we have done any worse with Parrot on the bench? And if so, how?

 

[Bedfordspurs]

Question. Could we have done any worse with Parrot on the bench? And if so, how?

What would we have gained or lost?
Parrott is by all accounts on a 121 coaching programme currently

 

[Robspur12]

Hmmmm. I was all for his appointment but have to agree that he has approached the last week in a poor way overall. As the pundits on BT Sport said, we have some very good players and Chelsea have their own injury problems, so we need to be much braver.



The CL game is nearly three weeks away!

He gets things wrong no doubt about it. His stint at Utd and second season at Chelsea recently showed he is human. But his record suggests he will get it right more often than wrong. We need to have some faith in the guy. Anyway, I don't think he is the type of manager who sets his team to go for the throat of big teams. He tends to take a far more cautious approach. To do so though he needs to sort out the defence first. We still give away far too many chances .

 

[Legohamster]

Hmmmm. I was all for his appointment but have to agree that he has approached the last week in a poor way overall. As the pundits on BT Sport said, we have some very good players and Chelsea have their own injury problems, so we need to be much braver.



The CL game is nearly three weeks away!

Chelsea did have injury problems, but could still field Giroud and Tammy from the bench - we had nothing.

 

[Pirate55]

What would we have gained or lost?
Parrott is by all accounts on a 121 coaching programme currently

We would have had a centre forward we could bring on. Allowing others to play in their more natural positions. For most of the game we had two midget attackers out of position to start with. When Dele came on, we still had two players playing out of position. Is it any wider we had no goal threat? A natural centre forward, however " unready" , would still allow others to play in their best positions.

 

[Pirate55]

@milo Lloris. Without him it could have been a cricket score.

 

[Bedfordspurs]

We would have had a centre forward we could bring on. Allowing others to play in their more natural positions. For most of the game we had two midget attackers out of position to start with. When Dele came on, we still had two players playing out of position. Is it any wider we had no goal threat? A natural centre forward, however " unready" , would still allow others to play in their best positions.

But he hasn’t played him at any point
He would never bring him on here
He doesn’t even think he is anywhere near ready hence the 121 coaching

 

[Bedfordspurs]

Chelsea did have injury problems, but could still field Giroud and Tammy from the bench - we had nothing.

Who did they have out?

 

[Mikey10]

Chelsea did have injury problems, but could still field Giroud and Tammy from the bench - we had nothing.

I’d say Alli and Lamela are every bit as good as those two.

 

[Cochise]

We have no goalscorers. Surely Parrott is at least worth a shot at this rate.

Some flashes of brilliant football today but too rare to be encouraging

 

[Mikey10]

Who did they have out?

Kante for a start. Abraham couldn’t play the whole game as returning from injury.

 

[Legohamster]

I’d say Alli and Lamela are every bit as good as those two.

Lamela cant last more than 30 minutes atm and Dele isnt the same with out someone to play off.

Thats the issue, even our "fit" players are not 100% or not played to strengths,