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No Rugby World Cup thread?

Quite an exciting game. They stop the clock and really have a lot more egg ball VAR now. Tho they somehow missed a blatant forward pass.
 
A lot of English players are not English by birth. Tuilagi - who was awesome - is Samoan, and we have a Kiwis too. Modern world, people, families are transnational.

Tuiliagi yes - it’s a rugby thing I don’t like
Who else?
The brothers came here as kids and grew up here

NZ take all the islanders best players too don’t forget
 
A lot of English players are not English by birth. Tuilagi - who was awesome - is Samoan, and we have a Kiwis too. Modern world, people, families are transnational.

Makes my blood boil in cricket also!
But that’s modern sport. But it detracts from any success our teams have imho!
Rugby is not for me! Got fed up with ‘rugger’ at school! Was a posh boys sport back then!
 
Tuiliagi yes - it’s a rugby thing I don’t like
Who else?
The brothers came here as kids and grew up here

NZ take all the islanders best players too don’t forget
Tuilagi also moved as a child - he was only 13.
Personally I look beyond land mass for nationality - I find it very narrow minded to not recognise that nationality should be about values and contribution, not biology (which in itself is pretty complicated!).

Residency is an interesting one though, as the residence is surely the UK? The Vunipolas and Tuilagi all moved to Wales initially, but play for England.
 
Makes my blood boil in cricket also!
But that’s modern sport. But it detracts from any success our teams have imho!
Rugby is not for me! Got fed up with ‘rugger’ at school! Was a posh boys sport back then!

I don't know if it is a bad thing. Kevin Peterson. Big character, was an asset to our game no? Same in Rugby? Maybe just the way the world is now - people move about.
 
I don't know if it is a bad thing. Kevin Peterson. Big character, was an asset to our game no? Same in Rugby? Maybe just the way the world is now - people move about.

Peterson was not for me, great batsman and not an Englishman!
Plenty of examples like this! Our cricket team is like a South African globetrotters!
 
Tuilagi also moved as a child - he was only 13.
Personally I look beyond land mass for nationality - I find it very narrow minded to not recognise that nationality should be about values and contribution, not biology (which in itself is pretty complicated!).

Residency is an interesting one though, as the residence is surely the UK? The Vunipolas and Tuilagi all moved to Wales initially, but play for England.

didnt they go to school in England

a certain welsh spurs supporting winger was born in Kings Lynn
 
didnt they go to school in England

a certain welsh spurs supporting winger was born in Kings Lynn
I think two of them went to school in Wales and then moved to England. The lined get very blurred, which raised my question about qualification - at what point do you decide which nationality is relevant?

I guess one easy answer to that is land mass upon which they were born.
Or residency in a specific area of the UK - or England/Wales.
It's an interesting thought.
 
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