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Morgan Schneiderlin

indianspur said:
definitely more than 20 mill though which is still expensive
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I agree Indian. Southampton are losing their biggest assets. A point will come where they refuse to let players leave, even if they go on strike. I can see them refusing to sell for less than 20-25m, and if that's so, we will have to move on. Shame as he looks classy and understands Poch's system (which would be a massive plus). If Southampton lose him, Lallana, Shaw, Lovren and possibly Rodriguez, together with a change of manager, they could struggle badly this coming season.
 
Hemant said:
They also had to receive the ball from the keeper or defenders. It is this aspect which I think will cost us goals as not only is losing the ball in your own third dangerous but centrally usually means a goal to the opposition.
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Pochettino knows all about that risk and he is prepared to accept it. Even if we do lose the odd goal in such a manner, he will tell the players to carry on. He will not blame them. His view is that the team will get far more out of it than they will suffer because of it.
 
Thing is, new manager at Southampton, which means a whole new system and philosophy. Maybe Koeman realises this and knows he can get money from these players and will bring in his own that suit his style.

I bet he never expected for one bit that he could get 16m for Calum Chambers.
 
Cotswold said:
I agree Indian. Southampton are losing their biggest assets. A point will come where they refuse to let players leave, even if they go on strike. I can see them refusing to sell for less than 20-25m, and if that's so, we will have to move on. Shame as he looks classy and understands Poch's system (which would be a massive plus). If Southampton lose him, Lallana, Shaw, Lovren and possibly Rodriguez, together with a change of manager, they could struggle badly this coming season.
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im thinking that if Poch is happy with the current squad, and is not looking to make too many big changes this summer, then it might be worthwhile spending big on just one signing like Morgan S because like you say he is a player that really understands what Poch wants and executes it brilliantly, and in an important position on the field. He is a good age, his best years ahead of him, and if Poch really wants him i think Levy should go all out to get a deal done, even if it is over 20 mill. Like i said, if he was to be our one and only major signing this summer i think it could be a vital one

i think Southampton will let him go if they receive the correct offer and maybe Koeman will go out and spend half of the money on Claise, a player who i think he managed at Feyenoord. Everyones a winner :)
 
Think we need to stop spending big money on average players. £15m for MS anymore and we should look elsewhere.
 
I disagree. I think MS is a one off, due to his being the ONE that Poch seems to really want to bring from Southampton.

I think this makes him different. Sign MS and give Poch what he wants to transform our team. Prudence can come with other signings.
 
Would rather spend 25m on someone Poch knows will work than 15m on someone who might not. Even if MS's only worth 15m, it may eventually be the difference for top 4, and then the extra 10m looks well spent.
 
JerusalemMan said:
From L'Equipe. Apparently. Interview with Morgan.

You spoke about pressing earlier, does Pochettino like to isolate the player in possession, or does he prefer playing 1v1 all across the field?

First of all, we have to close the central zones. He keeps saying it’s the heart of play and there’s always more options from the central zones: switches of play etc…

He emphasises on blocking passing lanes. Anyway when I do press, I try to leave the worst passing option possible to the opponent.

Pochettino asks us not to give the opponent the choice. But it requires a massive amount of work from a collective point of view. It’s not surprising after six or seven months working on it that we’re now able to harass and fully imbalance some of the teams we face.

We couldn’t do that from the start as it’s a massive work put in at training.

He wants us to recover the ball as high as possible, so for that it’s usually up to a forward to trigger the pressing ; so then we’ve to follow.

Personally, I sometimes have to leave my zone to help on one side if a winger who was out of position because he was in a forward zone and couldn’t fall back in time.

I’m the closest to the ball to intervene so then even if I’m tired, I’m kicking my ass. So then, the winger has to fill my zone and then we switch positions.

This is the basic philosophy.

We have precise drills and patterns depending of the situation. On goal kicks, if they attack from the right side etc.

Pochettino is all about detail, really. I recall that he showed us from the start that a meter or half a meter could block two passing lanes in midfield.

We just had to move a step ahead or orientating our body a given way to face the opponent in order to put him into trouble


How is all that implemented on daily basis at training?

You’re ought to know we play a 11v11 game every Wednesday. It’s often against the reserves, or the academy ; youths basically but intensity is maximal.

The staff implements several patterns of play depending of the situations. And as we changed the system – because Pochettino likes to play with a 10 and a lone striker – because Osvaldo and Lambert are both out and out forwards, it requires adaptation

We work on patterns to get the ball out from the back on goal kicks: the last two games, both CM had to get to both angles of the penalty box while the two CB had to spread to both sides of the box.

Full backs have to get close to the byline and the midway line. The purpose is to get the ball out from the back on ground and not hoofing the ball on Lambert.

If the pass toward Wanyama isn’t possible, we have the two center backs. If opponents close us down, so then both full backs are unmarked in a free zone. The aim is to find them as soon as possible in order to write off the most opposing players as we can.

If ever we don’t have a short option, that means that the opponent has closed us down as a team ans so then we’ve to play long on Lambert because it will be 1v1 in the air. But we often change that pattern because opponents adapts after a couple of games.


While attacking, there’s also the will to pass the ball on the floor and stretch opposing defences. Hence how crucial is your role as you’re a specialist to switch the play?

We must know how to oxygenate play, dictating the rhythm, surprise the opponent. Pochettino asks me to switch the play often because he likes that.

He wants us to develop a genuine playing identity. Even falling back as a team is necessary, he gives us license to attack. He wants his full backs to get into attacking positions, put under pressure opponent’s wingers. We always have to scan around.
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There are some people here really gonna hate on that.
 
LemonadeMoney said:
Would rather spend 25m on someone Poch knows will work than 15m on someone who might not. Even if MS's only worth 15m, it may eventually be the difference for top 4, and then the extra 10m looks well spent.
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There are no guarantees that it will work though. Just because he done well under his manager at one club does not mean he will do well in a different team.
 
Yiddo said:
There are no guarantees that it will work though. Just because he done well under his manager at one club does not mean he will do well in a different team.
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There's no guarantee with any transfer. At least Pochettino knows how to get the best out of MS. He knows what MS's weaknesses, and strengths, are and so therefore both his limits and his capabilities. Plus, he will know what kind of person he is, so will know what likely impact he'll have on the team spirit. All good things.
 
scaramanga said:
Organised, prescriptive methods of playing. Essentially the opposite of running about a bit.
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Not sure that the attacking play is as orchestrated. Seems like the primary method of attacking play is interlinked passing & free flowing movement.
 
El Guepardo said:
Not sure that the attacking play is as orchestrated. Seems like the primary method of attacking play is interlinked passing & free flowing movement.
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I think that's pretty much everyone's method of attack, other than the likes of Allardyce. Getting it to work is the real trick.
 
Mulletperm said:
Here we go again...
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I really like Poch's methods - everything I've read suggests that he's doing precisely what a modern coach fighting better resources should be.

I'm just warning that there's a few around that think this is the antithesis of football and will be complaining as soon as we struggle against a defensively organised home team.
 
scaramanga said:
Organised, prescriptive methods of playing. Essentially the opposite of running about a bit.
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ah, i see......i think its already been mentioned though that the difference between AVBs tactics and Poch's are that Poch will work more on our final third penetration. Already in the pre season games there has been an emphasis on more vertical passing and better interplay between our attackers.

being organised and well drilled is or never was the problem. It was just that we never created enough chances and didnt look exciting going forward.
 
Poch is quite simply a better coach than AVB, who despite being organised and prescriptive was not a very good coach. Maybe scara still has sour grapes re AVB? Time to let go and enjoy the here and now.

Poch's record of punching above his weight with limited resources, contrasts dramatically with AVBs.
 
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