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Mauricio Pochettino - Sacked
- Thread starter DubaiSpur
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Mate, people don't understand this is multi-million dollar business
- There are plans, plans to exceed plans, checkpoints, target adjustments, 3-5 year goals, key performance indicators
- Poch/Levy know (not think/speculate) if we have been successful/are ahead of schedule
- There would have been investment decisions to be made at checkpoints, etc.
Just because other clubs are run like a corner store, doesn't mean Spurs are.
nayimfromthehalfwayline
Andy Thompson
Ive wanted this for years, about bloody time. It was so obviously the right thing to do all along, Ive no idea why it wasnt like it in the first place.
He can want what he likes, but I think he (and we) know a lot of these things take time - especially if we are looking to aim higher.
ShipOfTheseus
Clint Dempsey
Has a Spurs manager ever left because they were poached by another club? I can't think of one. It's a reassuring stat if it really hasn't ever happened.
Just about every manager who has gone from one club to another has been poached to some extent. The recruiting club unofficially contacts a manager to sound him out etc well before it has been agreed he can talk to the club...
StephenH
David Ginola
We are talking about the media. It's just hot air. We all react, that's all they want.
On Liverpool - would you want a whole bunch of nutters declaring the scouse equivalent of a 'fatwa' on you. Safer to let them think everybody rates them....
nayimfromthehalfwayline
Andy Thompson
And how many have done that with us?
We have sacked them all (in recent memory!), not lost them to another club. Which I think was the point?
Though I would suggest Jol, and his alleged interview with Saudi Sportswashing Machine as a big factor in him leaving. They didnt poach him, but it wasnt until he went in for that talk that things went sour here.
ShipOfTheseus
Clint Dempsey
Exactly. I can't think of any Spurs manager who has left and then gone straight into another job.
Hashegotthesackyet?
Alan Hutton
I'm pi$$ed off and annoyed that yet again, the press and rumour mongers are having a field day.
I'm just not sure who i'm pi$$ed off with yet!
I'm just not sure who i'm pi$$ed off with yet!
Baleforce
Ron Henry
Ramos was in at Madrid within 6 weeks of us firing him iirc
Read the quotes in isolation (i posted them a page or two back) i think it's pretty clear there's nothing much to worry about
Yeah of course, we always tend to sack them - was just making a more generic point I guess. The fact they havent been poached is because none of our previous managers were ever good enough for a better club - Poch could feasibly get a job at a bigger club (not saying the likes of Real Madrid would be a good move for him) .....
nayimfromthehalfwayline
Andy Thompson
Was more in a "emergency stop gap" capacity than by design though, wasnt it?
nayimfromthehalfwayline
Andy Thompson
Quite possible.
I think it was just a fairly innocent observation in the first place. Not one that had occurred to me before.
At times Redknapp and Jol might have got some attention, but neither are in Pochs league.
ShipOfTheseus
Clint Dempsey
Presumably. Ramos took a £10m pay off, bitched widely about the sacking, and Levy also sacked Comolli, Poyet, Chirpy and everyone else in his little book of traitors and saboteurs. Not even Real could engineer that.
Finney Is Back
Luka Modric
Billyiddo - thanks for posting the quotes (I have pasted them in again below).
That is the first time I had read the quotes in isolation and, as you say, they are actually incredibly positive quotes. I love that Poch has some ideas that he thinks will ensure that we can compete for the major trophies (and remember that Poch only considers those to be the PL and CL). With his "Crazy ideas" comment it doesn't sound like Poch is talking about us going out and spending fortunes on a bunch of established players. I would say that the biggest thing Pochettino will be pushing Levy for is him allowing us to sign new players before existing players are sold. Let Poch go out and get the squad he wants and then concentrate on selling/loaning unwanted players after that. Yes there is then a risk that we will achieve lower transfer fees for our unwanted players, but I think that is a risk worth taking in this case.
“We need to talk a lot between us and the club. I think I have a very clear idea of what we need to do. I don’t know if the club will agree with me or not, but we are going to talk next week to create what I think we need to do together again, to try to improve. That is a little bit up to Daniel and the club, of course, to agree with us because, after four years, I think we need to assess that period if we want to compete for big, big trophies. I think all that we achieved until today is fantastic but it will be so important to create again.
“I think they’re going to listen to me, of course, but sometimes I have some crazy ideas. But you need to be brave in this kind of situation, in our club with our unbelievable fans, and take risks. I think it’s a moment for the club to take risks and try to be competitive. I am sure Daniel is going to listen to me and of course we can create together to help the team to move on.”
That is the first time I had read the quotes in isolation and, as you say, they are actually incredibly positive quotes. I love that Poch has some ideas that he thinks will ensure that we can compete for the major trophies (and remember that Poch only considers those to be the PL and CL). With his "Crazy ideas" comment it doesn't sound like Poch is talking about us going out and spending fortunes on a bunch of established players. I would say that the biggest thing Pochettino will be pushing Levy for is him allowing us to sign new players before existing players are sold. Let Poch go out and get the squad he wants and then concentrate on selling/loaning unwanted players after that. Yes there is then a risk that we will achieve lower transfer fees for our unwanted players, but I think that is a risk worth taking in this case.
“We need to talk a lot between us and the club. I think I have a very clear idea of what we need to do. I don’t know if the club will agree with me or not, but we are going to talk next week to create what I think we need to do together again, to try to improve. That is a little bit up to Daniel and the club, of course, to agree with us because, after four years, I think we need to assess that period if we want to compete for big, big trophies. I think all that we achieved until today is fantastic but it will be so important to create again.
“I think they’re going to listen to me, of course, but sometimes I have some crazy ideas. But you need to be brave in this kind of situation, in our club with our unbelievable fans, and take risks. I think it’s a moment for the club to take risks and try to be competitive. I am sure Daniel is going to listen to me and of course we can create together to help the team to move on.”
nayimfromthehalfwayline
Andy Thompson
Thats pretty well how I read it in the first place.
We are in a position now where we need to aim higher.
Amazes me how so many on here automatically seek out the worst case scenario/negativity in everything that comes out.
We are in a position now where we need to aim higher.
Amazes me how so many on here automatically seek out the worst case scenario/negativity in everything that comes out.
nayimfromthehalfwayline
Andy Thompson
Could equally be ripping out and replacing the guts of the team, as is currently being reported.
Yes you could be right, although I wouldnt view it as 'crazy ideas' considering the players being mentioned - all players that we have discusssed as leaving on here for various reasons....