Yeah, if he wants to go back Hamburg again no way we do that without getting him to extend his contract
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Luka Vuskovic
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braineclipse
Vic Buckingham
Can understand him wanting to stay another year there. Guaranteed starts, playing well, chance to play with his brother. Would perhaps be difficult if the club won't accommodate that wish. At the same time if he's good enough to be a squad member for us that would solve some problems.
Assuming we keep VdV and Romero and we're not in Europe next season probably best to let him have another season out on loan if that's what he wants.
Assuming we keep VdV and Romero and we're not in Europe next season probably best to let him have another season out on loan if that's what he wants.
Love the “he wouldn’t be getting game time” as we trot out a Palhinha & Dragusin centre back pairing
Big difference as a teenager getting 8 or 9, vs. full season of 40+.
He could get another 40-50 games experience next year and still come back to us at 20
We need him now.
johnola
Vedran Corluka
what about the championship?
He's playing against Bayern, Dortmund and Leverkusen, we might even get him to play for Dortmund, I think the Championship is a step down.
Sorry utterly mental the way he is being discussed. He’s been the best defender in the Bundesliga all season. If Bayern were signing him from Hoffenhiem it would be fo €50M+ and he would be starting for them pretty quickly. But we’re questioning whether he gets minutes ahead of Kevin Danso
FatBloke
Terry Fenwick
While Danso has proved to be a pretty damn good defender – arguably as good a third choice as we've ever had in the Prem – I think it's more questioning whether Vuskovic would get minutes ahead of VdV or Romero. Which is a no.Sorry utterly mental the way he is being discussed. He’s been the best defender in the Bundesliga all season. If Bayern were signing him from Hoffenhiem it would be fo €50M+ and he would be starting for them pretty quickly. But we’re questioning whether he gets minutes ahead of Kevin Danso
Anyway, Vuskovic has said as much in interviews. Stripping away the ridiculous scoring record, he is still a youngster and has room to improve his defending. It's also an ambition of his to play alongside his brother, Mario, whom Hamburg have stood by through a 4-year doping ban (ending in November) which the family strongly dispute.
Assuming we've still got VdV, Romero and Danso next season, I think the best thing for Vuskovic's long term development is as good a loan as he can get. While playing for Hamburg isn't going as good as getting games for a lower Prem side, it's as good or better than the Championship or arguably any other league. And we know he'll be leading the line every game – for 19yo, that is gold.
We also have Dragusin, who has shown himself to be pretty decent backup, despite some rust against Emirates Marketing Project and a dingdong of an agent. Just a pity that neither he nor Danso plays FB as well.
I see this as similar to Sonny's national service. Do good by Vuskovic, keep on qualifying for those European tours, and he'll hopefully pay us back for it. Either that or we'll get £100M+ for him.
Him staying at Hamburg for another year also might not be the worst thing from a personal point. Assuming he is living with his brother so he has a support network there and he has moved country every year the last few seasons. He might really kick on staying in an environment he already feels comfortable in.
This is a guy that moved to Poland at 16, Belguim at 17, Germany at 18. Don't think thats an issue for him. And if anything we should be getting him settled in the UK.
Danso has started 16 games and come of the bench in another 7. Vuskovic has played in 19 games all as a starter. Its not that big a difference. Factor in that Romero & VDV typically miss 1/3 of the season.
Its sweet he wants to play with his brother. But this professional football. He was paid a significant signing on fee when he joined the club and he is contracted to Tottenham Hotspur and thats the priority of him and the club.
He is more than just a goalscorer. His passing and duel winning starts are up there with the best in europe. Also think we are over rating Romero and VDV. Even with them both starting we have been leaking goals. Both have flirted with leaving. Give them some genuine competion and all of a sudden they are fighting to be in our 1st XI over considering moves elsewhere.
Ace Face
Mark Bowen
Been researching whether or not Vuskovic could eventually be classed as a "club-trained player" after his third season under contract with us, and the best I could find is this which, if correct, would prevent him from being classed as "club-trained" if he stays at Hamburg for a second season...
According to UEFA's definition, a club-trained player is a player who has been registered with their current club for a minimum of three entire seasons (or 36 months) between the ages of 15 and 21.
Regarding loaning out players, clubs can have a maximum of 17 foreign-trained players in UEFA competitions. However, there is a specific restriction that allows for a maximum of one loan period to a foreign club for a player who qualifies as a club-trained player, with the loan period not exceeding one year
According to UEFA's definition, a club-trained player is a player who has been registered with their current club for a minimum of three entire seasons (or 36 months) between the ages of 15 and 21.
Regarding loaning out players, clubs can have a maximum of 17 foreign-trained players in UEFA competitions. However, there is a specific restriction that allows for a maximum of one loan period to a foreign club for a player who qualifies as a club-trained player, with the loan period not exceeding one year
Yep. He would need to be loaned to an English FA club for it to count. Ashley Phillips as an example will be club trained next season and will Alfie Devine. Not that it matters as we won’t be in Europe. But in the slim chance we make the Conference League which could be 8th they should be part of the squad next season.
Muttley
Mauricio Taricco
Just a thought but does he have 3 or 4 seasons to pass the club trained critireia though? He's only 18 now. I'm wondering if he has 2 seasons in Germany and 2 seasons under our FA (hopefully with us) then he ticks the right boxes before he is classed as a senior player.
This is season 1/3. So if he was loaned out in the 26/27 & 27/28 season he would have to be loaned to an English team. Another reason why we should not give a fly f about him playing with his brother. In terms of developing into a player that is ready to be a first team regular at Spurs he would be way better off going on loan to a lower mid table Prem team........oh wait we are a lower mid table Prem team. Bring him back next summer and he should be given as much of an opportunity to play as Romero & VDV because he is as good as them already.