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Just because we're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get us

milo

Jack L. Jones
You often see people on here saying that the media are against us or out to get us. Are they or are they just after a story to help sell papers/advertising?
 
bit of both and a bit of paranoia I'd say, there are definitely some hacks and editors with an axe to grind with us

one thing that's become obvious since I started listening to football podcasts is that all journos have a team, Fernando duarte is a good example, talks a lot of sense unless the subject is Liverpool
 
A friend of mine (spammer) used to write for the Mirror and he was of the opinion that about half the London sports press were Spams and didn't like us very much.

That was back when papers employed specialist sports writers though, I suspect most of them have fallen by the wayside.
 
A game finishes 2-1. That is a bald fact.
Explaining why it finished 2-1 and (IMO) describing the game is opinion. If the opinion is interesting I don't need to agree with it.
 
It's a sales-driven industry, not a truth-driven industry.

Whatever sells. Whatever gets the hits, the comments, whatever there is most mileage in will make the papers. However, it's undeniable that there are a few in the media that show obvious bias - the ex Liverpool players on Sky/MOTD and then the sideline roles that follow from that, the ex Arsenal on Sky, and whichever writer is treated nicely by whichever club, they are obviously going to be friendlier about those clubs because it's either their team or they have a relationship that needs to be maintained. The opposite is also true, if there is a bandwagon to jump on they will fall in line like a flock of sheep - like, say, kicking AVB when he was down during the Chelsea period or Juggins going at AVB for showing him up at a press conference.

Most are quite balanced in their views, in that they will go after a club over an issue if they feel there is some value in the story (sales value, not defender of truth and justice value). Some of the research is quite poor at times but it doesn't necessarily mean they are out to get anyone, either it's been cut by a sub or the writer just isn't very good (and doesn't need to be).

I do wish the standard was higher though, in all forms of media. Most of the time it's a load of recycled, exaggerated or fabricated crap and it amazes me that people still buy/read the papers.

Fans of all clubs say this from time to time, because, from time to time, there is something to get at that club for. The saturation of stories feels like a conspiracy and then the last time something naughty was said the whole catalogue of events are reopened.
 
Some here are popping Rose because he said what he thinks.
Bland pundits (eg Wilkins) on live games and studio half time sessions.
I crave opinion.
 
For each and every fan of any one club there are going to be loads more who support rivals. Journos are no fools, they are going to slant their stories with rival fans in mind.

Hence the paranoia.
 
You often see people on here saying that the media are against us or out to get us. Are they or are they just after a story to help sell papers/advertising?

I think most supporters feel that way. Even media darlings Liverpool feel like the world is always against them.

That being said, when a player at United or Liverpool acts unprofessionally towards the club, the media do tend to get up in arms "how do he treat such a great club that way" etc. But when Modric or Berbatov does the same to Spurs? Not a peep, except from ex spurs players.
 
A lot of the newspapers and talk radio use professional trolls to get a response/drive traffic
 
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